Speaking only for yourself.Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: gsellis
Eyewitness reports are historically unreliable. Reporters are even worse.Originally posted by: UNCjigga
Oh fvck...this just in...
At latest press conference (8 PM) police say that descriptions of the gunman from West AJ (dorm shooting) and Norris Hall (class shooting) do not match.
They are now again saying there might be a second gunman.
edit: They have a person of interest they are seeking for the first shooting, the gunman from the second shooting is confirmed dead.
white people cant tell us apart
Originally posted by: Luthien
Originally posted by: Gobadgrs
I sign onto CNN.com this morning to read 34 STUDENTS SLAUGHTERED.
God I love the sensonalization of all of this #@)$(&#@(*$&#@$. No respect for the families. Why don't any of the news outlets have any common sense to maybe list it as:
Virgina Tech Tragedy. 34 students die in schooling or something like that.
Its gotta be, 34 students slaughtered, or 34 students massacred or 34 students executed.
@)(&%#)(*$&@#$)(* news media
Yep, it is being reported like a hot new action packed movie with the same people that do the movie adverts sensational voices advertising breaking news and upcomming news events on it etc. This from the people that wanna blame games for violence while hypocritically they advertise violence like that to make MO MONEY!
Originally posted by: Luthien
The asian guy is now being reported as a student and additionally now they are saying he lived in the same building as the first two murders.
Seems to me at this point that it is very likely he is the only shooter. Could be otherwise but I doubt it.
Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: Luthien
The asian guy is now being reported as a student and additionally now they are saying he lived in the same building as the first two murders.
Seems to me at this point that it is very likely he is the only shooter. Could be otherwise but I doubt it.
Doubt it. Dorms very often have a pretty high level of security. I doubt he could have had weapons in the room for an extended period of time without someone reporting it. Unless of course he had some sort of room to him self or was extremely a loner. They purposely design the dorms to limit hiding spaces for drugs or booze. Guns would be even harder. Since the beginning I have assumed the guy would have to be an off campus or commuter student.
If I could've brought a gun into my dorm room when I lived there (handgun would be simple, rifle harder but still doable), I could've kept it in my room all year easily without anyone finding it.Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: Luthien
The asian guy is now being reported as a student and additionally now they are saying he lived in the same building as the first two murders.
Seems to me at this point that it is very likely he is the only shooter. Could be otherwise but I doubt it.
Doubt it. Dorms very often have a pretty high level of security. I doubt he could have had weapons in the room for an extended period of time without someone reporting it. Unless of course he had some sort of room to him self or was extremely a loner. They purposely design the dorms to limit hiding spaces for drugs or booze. Guns would be even harder. Since the beginning I have assumed the guy would have to be an off campus or commuter student.
Hope he has a full and speedy recovery.Originally posted by: SoulAssassin
:Q:brokenheart:
I just found out my 2nd cousin was shot in the face yesterday. I haven't seen him in years but his brother and I were born on the same day and used to be real close. This just hit home a helluva lot harder. I really don't know what to think now.
Originally posted by: Conky
Glad to see you are leading the ignorance.Originally posted by: invidia
Let's all be ignorant and start blaming TV and video games now. I'll bet the next 6-10 months will be debates and arguments on who to blame instead of remembering and mourning the victims.
Typical Americans.
Originally posted by: clamum
If I could've brought a gun into my dorm room when I lived there (handgun would be simple, rifle harder but still doable), I could've kept it in my room all year easily without anyone finding it.Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: Luthien
The asian guy is now being reported as a student and additionally now they are saying he lived in the same building as the first two murders.
Seems to me at this point that it is very likely he is the only shooter. Could be otherwise but I doubt it.
Doubt it. Dorms very often have a pretty high level of security. I doubt he could have had weapons in the room for an extended period of time without someone reporting it. Unless of course he had some sort of room to him self or was extremely a loner. They purposely design the dorms to limit hiding spaces for drugs or booze. Guns would be even harder. Since the beginning I have assumed the guy would have to be an off campus or commuter student.
Other places are saying it's a 24 year old Chinese student on a student visa.Originally posted by: chrisg22
Washington post reporting the killer is of Korean descent and from Fairfax county, VA.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co...4/17/AR2007041700456.html?hpid=topnews
Originally posted by: MrBond
Other places are saying it's a 24 year old Chinese student on a student visa.Originally posted by: chrisg22
Washington post reporting the killer is of Korean descent and from Fairfax county, VA.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co...4/17/AR2007041700456.html?hpid=topnews
Originally posted by: DigitalWanksta
Originally posted by: clamum
If I could've brought a gun into my dorm room when I lived there (handgun would be simple, rifle harder but still doable), I could've kept it in my room all year easily without anyone finding it.Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: Luthien
The asian guy is now being reported as a student and additionally now they are saying he lived in the same building as the first two murders.
Seems to me at this point that it is very likely he is the only shooter. Could be otherwise but I doubt it.
Doubt it. Dorms very often have a pretty high level of security. I doubt he could have had weapons in the room for an extended period of time without someone reporting it. Unless of course he had some sort of room to him self or was extremely a loner. They purposely design the dorms to limit hiding spaces for drugs or booze. Guns would be even harder. Since the beginning I have assumed the guy would have to be an off campus or commuter student.
I have to agree with Clamum here. I'm a full-time college student at a university living in a residence hall. It's very easy for someone to conceal a wepon in their dorm room. Especially a handgun. There really isn't a way to have prevented him from having the weapons in his room. They do room checks throughout the semseter, however they are not allow to look through your closets, desk, etc.. They can only check your refrigirator and hold you accountable for items that are visable by just entering the room. I really feel like what the focus should be on in this case is the fact that the university did not shuntdown after the inital shooting at 7:00AM. You can NOT make assumptions that the gunman has fled the scene and is no longer on campus. That's absolutly ridiculous to even think. You should never assume something like that, and I really feel they should have shut the campus down. As we all know, even if they shut the campus down, the gunman could have still carryed out his plan of action. However, the incident would have been more isolated, and I really feel there would have been a less number of people killed becuase the law enforcement could have arrived to that one particular buidling with focus just on that builidng knowing he's inside instead of surrounding the entire campus not knowing for sure where is was.
Just my .02
Originally posted by: YetioDoom
Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: Luthien
The asian guy is now being reported as a student and additionally now they are saying he lived in the same building as the first two murders.
Seems to me at this point that it is very likely he is the only shooter. Could be otherwise but I doubt it.
Doubt it. Dorms very often have a pretty high level of security. I doubt he could have had weapons in the room for an extended period of time without someone reporting it. Unless of course he had some sort of room to him self or was extremely a loner. They purposely design the dorms to limit hiding spaces for drugs or booze. Guns would be even harder. Since the beginning I have assumed the guy would have to be an off campus or commuter student.
It has been confirmed that the shooter lived in one of the dorms, but they didn't say if it was the dorm where the shooting occured.[/q
CNN said earlier SAME DORM they may change it or not say Same dorm again but they did say same dorm. I only reported what they said. Take anything the news says with a grain of salt of course but no need to say they didn't say it when in fact they did. You calling me a liar? Whatever...
Originally posted by: krunchykrome
Originally posted by: MrBond
Other places are saying it's a 24 year old Chinese student on a student visa.Originally posted by: chrisg22
Washington post reporting the killer is of Korean descent and from Fairfax county, VA.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co...4/17/AR2007041700456.html?hpid=topnews
I have been reading the same thing, that it was a 24 year old Chinese Student on a student visa.
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Originally posted by: DigitalWanksta
Originally posted by: clamum
If I could've brought a gun into my dorm room when I lived there (handgun would be simple, rifle harder but still doable), I could've kept it in my room all year easily without anyone finding it.Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: Luthien
The asian guy is now being reported as a student and additionally now they are saying he lived in the same building as the first two murders.
Seems to me at this point that it is very likely he is the only shooter. Could be otherwise but I doubt it.
Doubt it. Dorms very often have a pretty high level of security. I doubt he could have had weapons in the room for an extended period of time without someone reporting it. Unless of course he had some sort of room to him self or was extremely a loner. They purposely design the dorms to limit hiding spaces for drugs or booze. Guns would be even harder. Since the beginning I have assumed the guy would have to be an off campus or commuter student.
I have to agree with Clamum here. I'm a full-time college student at a university living in a residence hall. It's very easy for someone to conceal a wepon in their dorm room. Especially a handgun. There really isn't a way to have prevented him from having the weapons in his room. They do room checks throughout the semseter, however they are not allow to look through your closets, desk, etc.. They can only check your refrigirator and hold you accountable for items that are visable by just entering the room. I really feel like what the focus should be on in this case is the fact that the university did not shuntdown after the inital shooting at 7:00AM. You can NOT make assumptions that the gunman has fled the scene and is no longer on campus. That's absolutly ridiculous to even think. You should never assume something like that, and I really feel they should have shut the campus down. As we all know, even if they shut the campus down, the gunman could have still carryed out his plan of action. However, the incident would have been more isolated, and I really feel there would have been a less number of people killed becuase the law enforcement could have arrived to that one particular buidling with focus just on that builidng knowing he's inside instead of surrounding the entire campus not knowing for sure where is was.
Just my .02
I'll back calmum and DigitalWanksta up as well in that people brought all kinds of stuff to dorms that people never knew about. People have tons of alcohol stashed that is never found and like Digital said they can't check your personal belongings without a warrant/reasonable cause. It would be very very easy to hide a gun in amongst your clothes or stashed in a couch etc I can think of plenty of places to hide such things...or better way to put it, if you(or myself) can hide a couple fifths of alcohol or a couple beers you could easily hide a handgun and ammo for it.