X1800, X1600, X1300 Sell Sheets

nRollo

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It's tough to base anything on PR, but the 16X12 sheet looks promising? Why the heck can't they just post numbers?

Anyway, fast RAM.
 

crazydingo

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Originally posted by: Rollo
It's tough to base anything on PR, but the 16X12 sheet looks promising? Why the heck can't they just post numbers?

Anyway, fast RAM.
Its just that, PR numbers.

These are the same slides on which Sander based his article and all of recent Fuad's articles as well.
 

M0RPH

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They're placing a priority on image quality, unlike the competition. Looks very nice.

High quality AF without angle dependency... *drool*

HDR + AA ... why would you settle for anything less?
 

M0RPH

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Muhahaha. Look at those performance graphs.

- 38% faster in BF2
- 32% faster in Farcry
- 80% faster in FEAR

- 10% faster in HL2 (not 10% slower like Sassen's benchmarks showed)
 

crazydingo

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I dont care about the 3dmark scores. HDR + AA is the thing that stands out most.

Might upgrade to an X1800, my 6600GT is choking under BF2.
 

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As they said above, these scores lend no credibility whatsoever. This is nothing but ATI marketing at best.

The NDA is lifted in a few days; why can't we just wait then for some OBJECTIONABLE results?

Deception
 

MBrown

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I highly doubt the FEAR sp demo bench is that much better than the gtx. Its just ATI's exaggeration. nVidia or any company would do the same thing just so you guys dont shun my for being a fanboy.
 

Polish3d

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If this is legit, ANNNNNNNND its available, and the X1800XT overclocks better, I'll be getting one


Look for a GTX for 375 in FS/T if true! (Seriously. BFG 7800GTX)
 

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Originally posted by: M0RPH
They're placing a priority on image quality, unlike the competition. Looks very nice.

High quality AA without all the angle dependency... *drool*


I just have to laugh at this statement. Remind me again who has had super sampling for over a year and a half again? Remind me who introduced transparent antialiasing?
 

5150Joker

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Originally posted by: Frackal
If this is legit, ANNNNNNNND its available, and the X1800XT overclocks better, I'll be getting one


Look for a GTX for 375 in FS/T if true! (Seriously. BFG 7800GTX)



Sweet I'll buy it and have myself SLI.
 

nRollo

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Originally posted by: crazydingo
I dont care about the 3dmark scores. HDR + AA is the thing that stands out most.

Might upgrade to an X1800, my 6600GT is choking under BF2.

That will "stand out" if it's usable.
 

M0RPH

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Originally posted by: MBrown
I highly doubt the FEAR sp demo bench is that much better than the gtx. Its just ATI's exaggeration. nVidia or any company would do the same thing just so you guys dont shun my for being a fanboy.

What you just said is exactly why it's probably accurate. They wouldn't come up with a way out number like that if it wasn't verifiable, cause they know people would be all over it.
 

CrystalBay

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Originally posted by: crazydingo
I dont care about the 3dmark scores. HDR + AA is the thing that stands out most.

Might upgrade to an X1800, my 6600GT is choking under BF2.



I hear you, my 6800GT chokes in F.E.A.R, not really but with soft shadows on, it does..
 

crazydingo

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Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: crazydingo
I dont care about the 3dmark scores. HDR + AA is the thing that stands out most.

Might upgrade to an X1800, my 6600GT is choking under BF2.

That will "stand out" if it's usable.
True. I hope its usable.

Originally posted by: CrystalBay
Originally posted by: crazydingo
I dont care about the 3dmark scores. HDR + AA is the thing that stands out most.

Might upgrade to an X1800, my 6600GT is choking under BF2.

I hear you, my 6800GT chokes in F.E.A.R, not really but with soft shadows on, it does..
FEAR is even more demanding. :Q I played the demo at 1024 X 768.
 

akugami

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Am I the only one that while interested in the benchmark numbers am more interested in the image quality and the AVIVO features than anything else?

Lots of PR BS. Really nothing to see, gotta wait for the NDA's to lift and see the truth behind this thing.
 

M0RPH

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Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Originally posted by: M0RPH
They're placing a priority on image quality, unlike the competition. Looks very nice.

High quality AA without all the angle dependency... *drool*


I just have to laugh at this statement. Remind me again who has had super sampling for over a year and a half again? Remind me who introduced transparent antialiasing?

Yeah, they also have that awesome texture shimmering feature too!

PS. HDR + AA ... why would you settle for anything less?

 

Powermoloch

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In FEAR, I can't tell the diff with soft shadows and volumetric lights...even I can't tell a difference with med and high text.....still the game looks gorgeous w/ 1280x960 2 AA/8AF on med settings

sigh...on AGP !!!! (no regrets )
 

Cookie Monster

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Now i want the X1800 XT so bad. If IQ is better than the 7800GTX, then the X1800 XT is going to be my next card for my new rig
 

M0RPH

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Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
Now i want the X1800 XT so bad. If IQ is better than the 7800GTX, then the X1800 XT is going to be my next card for my new rig

I normally don't buy $500 video cards but I might make an exception this time.
 

Cookie Monster

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Originally posted by: M0RPH
Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
Now i want the X1800 XT so bad. If IQ is better than the 7800GTX, then the X1800 XT is going to be my next card for my new rig

I normally don't buy $500 video cards but I might make an exception this time.

:beer:

IF they deliever what they have promised on the sell sheets.
 

5150Joker

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Originally posted by: M0RPH
Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Originally posted by: M0RPH
They're placing a priority on image quality, unlike the competition. Looks very nice.

High quality AA without all the angle dependency... *drool*


I just have to laugh at this statement. Remind me again who has had super sampling for over a year and a half again? Remind me who introduced transparent antialiasing?

Yeah, they also have that awesome texture shimmering feature too!

PS. HDR + AA ... why would you settle for anything less?


Before you sing the praises of HDR+AA and tattoo an X1800XT logo to your butt, make sure you see what the performance penalty will be first. Oh yeah now that you mention HDR, remind me again who introduced FP 16 HDR?


LOL - it's always follow the leader.
 

M0RPH

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Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Oh yeah now that you mention HDR, remind me again who introduced FP 16 HDR?

LOL - it's always follow the leader.

It's not who does it first, it's who does it right.
 

5150Joker

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Originally posted by: M0RPH
Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Oh yeah now that you mention HDR, remind me again who introduced FP 16 HDR?

LOL - it's always follow the leader.

It's not who does it first, it's who does it right.


You mean a year and a half later right? :roll: Like I said, you are going to look mighty foolish if your beloved ATi's AA+HDR solution ends up being a pretty slideshow. I wonder how much flip-flopping we'll be seeing from ATi fanboys in regards to AA+HDR performance? Will they criticize it as useless since it kills performance so much (like HDR did on 6800 cards) or will they pull a John Kerry and say it's the best thing since sliced bread?
 
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