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itsrunninghot

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I'm almost afriad to even state my opinion on this matter because of the instant flaming thats going on in both directions, but here is a video of quake 4 running on final xbox360 hardware. I think its safe to say that pc games and new console games will be nearly indistinguishable for at least a year or two.


** I realize quake 4 using a controller will be inferior by a large margin to kb+mouse, but i like the idea of kicking back in my recliner on a sunday afternoon.

edit: that is not running on final hardware, but found a preview with lower res movies on final hardware here

"At this point we?ll mention that the PC version and the Xbox 360 version are identical in their appearance, as developer Raven was able to get the game running on the Xbox 360 without having to cut back any of the PC version?s specs."
 

ArchAngel777

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Originally posted by: itsrunninghot
I'm almost afriad to even state my opinion on this matter because of the instant flaming thats going on in both directions, but here is a video of quake 4 running on final xbox360 hardware. I think its safe to say that pc games and new console games will be nearly indistinguishable for at least a year or two.


** I realize quake 4 using a controller will be inferior by a large margin to kb+mouse, but i like the idea of kicking back in my recliner on a sunday afternoon.


I know I might sound like a three year old when I say this, but "He started it". That is the fact if you read it. I am simply defending my statement and his attempts to discredit me. I have no problem with people who play consoles, but I do have a problem with people saying that consoles are superior to PC's. That is just plain false.

But seriously, express your opinions, because I will not flame you at all. If you track all my posts at AT, no flaming comes from me, unless of course someone made an attack on me first, in which case I will need to defend myself. Other than that, I have never set out to flame like he did. Anyway, sorry to everyone here that has to read this. I will not be responding to that fella anymore due to the strain and unwelcome feel it gives to the forum. Feel free to continue discussion.


Edit **
** I realize quake 4 using a controller will be inferior by a large margin to kb+mouse, but i like the idea of kicking back in my recliner on a sunday afternoon.

I do that too I have a Dell 30" LCD where I have my nice office chair (Not quite a recliner, but pretty close) and just enjoy games with wireless mouse + keyboard. It is the ultimate lazy of lazy, and I love every bit of it
 

itsrunninghot

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I wasnt trying to single you or anyone else out, but its obvious that there are very opionated posters in this thread. Like many others have stated, i also use my pc for fps's, but i cant stand to play racing or sports games on my pc. I could care less if i can get a little more resolution on pc or have a console with slightly more advanced technology. I just like to play my games.
 

ArchAngel777

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Originally posted by: itsrunninghot
I wasnt trying to single you or anyone else out, but its obvious that there are very opionated posters in this thread. Like many others have stated, i also use my pc for fps's, but i cant stand to play racing or sports games on my pc. I could care less if i can get a little more resolution on pc or have a console with slightly more advanced technology. I just like to play my games.

Good point... Some of us are so concerned with technology behind it, that we fail to take the good from each genre... I am guilty of that... Anyway, thanks for the post, it reminds to just enjoy them for what they are and what they were designed for.
 

Tsosczb

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Enjoy this in the meantime.
Originally posted by: ArchAngel777
Actually, I was going to let this die, but after your post, I just couldn't leave it be.

First of all, your 6 of your 8 definitions used its own word to define it. That is a laughable definition. I cannot believe you would use something like that (actually I can). What you used was as moronic as someone saying "What is a car?" "A car is a car" Wow, that was informative. Again, none of your definations are accurate except save for 1. But even that definition didn't clearly define what it is and what it is not. Therefore, you still have no idea on what the law of contradiction is.

Again, it is laughable that you bolded the definitions that use its own word for the definition. How pathetic is that?

Fact is that you didn't read what I wrote and wanted to make a defence for being a dumbass. That is the only conclusion I come up with. Most people at AT are just interested at taking one sentance out of a paragraph and quoting it, instead of reading the entire paragraph and quoting it. Again, you are the dumbass for jumping the gun.

Lets face it, even if I gave you the benifit of the doubt on the contradiction, you still spoke before you knew what I was saying. You still commented without reading more than the first line. Then you try and shield it by trying to take a twist and say I contradicted myself and went on tangent. Fact is, even if I did contradict myself (which I did not, since I did not violate the law of contradiction) you still should have read what I wrote before any type of rebuttal. But, you didn't, and that made you look like a dumb ass.

So, read before you write. Then if you have a problem with what I say, then by all means, say it. I have no problem with a dissagrement, but I have a problem with a half-ass attempt at a rebuttal who didn't even read my entire post.

Again, I am sorry that you feel the need to defend consoles... I am sorry that your E-Peen was offended by the fact that computers can do more than consoles and have more graphics options. You can play with your inferior console, that is not a problem with me. But don't try and pretend like they are superior, because they are not.
W..T...F.... how slow can you be? You can't even pay attention to who you're talking to, let alone what they say.
Fact is, even if I did contradict myself (which I did not, since I did not violate the law of contradiction)
There's no question, you blatantly contradicted yourself. And what the hell is the "law of contradiction"? You mentioned scientists earlier (for God knows what reason), was this some kind of theory I haven't heard of?
Edit * You quote
So slowdowns never happen in in PC gaming? Oh, right, you sit there for 2 hours tweaking the plethora of minute settings before you actually play the game.
Now I know why you are pro console... Because you became frustrated with the video settings within a game menu... You spend hours trying to figure out how to enable OpenGL and turn on AA...
And again you make baseless conjectures. You just can't stop!
Yes, for you a console is better, you proved it with your 2 hour tweaking statement. Anyone who spends 2 hours tweaking their settings for a game, clearly isn't intelligent enough to use a PC for games properly. No wonder you are so anti-PC, because you cannot figure them out. I am glad the truth finally came out!
Clearly you don't know what a hyperbole is. But back the point... How many options are there for game console graphics? How many for the latest PC game? We're comparing the choice of a few cables to many settings that could make or break video quality and performane. Consoles games are designed to run on one system, as best as they can make it, so there's no settings needed. It was a stupid thing for you to bring up.
PS. Did you figure out how to plug in your new console? Or put the disc in the console drive? I'll wait a few hours while you figure it out...
Ooh, gud 1. A real zinger! (after you look up hyperbole, look up sarcasm)

Originally posted by: ArchAngel777
I know I might sound like a three year old when I say this, but "He started it". That is the fact if you read it.
The fact is that you came in here and said a bunch of bullshit right from the start. Then as soon as you didn't have something of mine to argue, you started the ad hominems.
I am simply defending my statement and his attempts to discredit me. I have no problem with people who play consoles, but I do have a problem with people saying that consoles are superior to PC's. That is just plain false.
You also make up what people say. Who said anything about PC or consoles being "better"? The only ones I see that from are the PC fanboys here, who think that saying anything about anything else is going to be better is attacking PCs as a whole.
But seriously, express your opinions, because I will not flame you at all. If you track all my posts at AT, no flaming comes from me, unless of course someone made an attack on me first, in which case I will need to defend myself. Other than that, I have never set out to flame like he did.
See, while this very well may be untrue, you at least worded it so you weren't blatantly contradicting yourself.
Anyway, sorry to everyone here that has to read this. I will not be responding to that fella anymore due to the strain and unwelcome feel it gives to the forum. Feel free to continue discussion.
I like how you villanize anyone you argued with, and try to act like some kind of saint.
 

ArchAngel777

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Anyway, sorry to everyone here that has to read this. I will not be responding to that fella anymore due to the strain and unwelcome feel it gives to the forum. Feel free to continue discussion.
I like how you villanize anyone you argued with, and try to act like some kind of saint.[/quote]


You just need a big HUG! And a glass of :wine:
 

Tsosczb

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Originally posted by: ArchAngel777
Anyw
y, sorry to everyone here that has to read this. I will not be responding to that fella anymore due to the strain and unwelcome feel it gives to the forum. Feel free to continue discussion.
I like how you villanize anyone you argued with, and try to act like some kind of saint.
You just need a big HUG! And a glass of :wine:
QFG



edit: stupid idiot had his quotes screwed up
 

Kenmitch

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This thread is pretty damn funny....The flame war will go on forever in here!

Consoles come and go as does PC hardware.

My son who is 13 does not have any interest in PC games at this time.

Has a PS2 which he does not use and will be sold....Has a gamecube which he uses sometimes.

Has a modded XBOX which has dominated his gaming interest thanks to Halo, Halo 2 and XBOX live.

XBOX 360 is a must have for him and will be more cost effective than playing the PC hardware game.

XBOX 360 is kinda pricey but... Not when compared to the price of a modern video card which will be outdated in a couple of months and will just feed the upgrade urge

As far as the whole arguement goes it is pretty much pointless as they are not created to compete with one another in the first place.

If a console has the games you wanna play buy it! If it doesn't don't buy it!

It will be and always will be much easier for developers to tap the known hardware config of a console than to make games that must run on multiple configurations.

I'm not a fanboy of either the console or the PC and my opinion is mine and is not intended to sway either arguement. I don't care what you game on or who has the big bad-ass system





 

mcmikemc

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Originally posted by: ArchAngel777
Originally posted by: Tsosczb
Originally posted by: ArchAngel777
I am talking progressive here, I can care less about interlaced. If you want to play interlaced games, more power to you.
So now there's something wrong with it being interlaced? Not only do you sound like you don't know crap about game consoles, but your ignorance is bleeding into other subjects as well.
Edit ** And for the record, please supply me with these abundance of games that support 720P and 1080i. The only ones you will be able to supply are the ones that do not tax the hardware to the limits, in which case is my point. Or if you do happen to find one, you can be sure that game is choppy in some areas...
So slowdowns never happen in in PC gaming? Oh, right, you sit there for 2 hours tweaking the plethora of minute settings before you actually play the game.
Originally posted by: ArchAngel777
If you use that term losely (like you are) then un-intelligent bad can be deduced from a contradiction and therefore, you should have continued to read, knowing that your definition of the word can apply to many things such as point #4, which you bolded.

If that is the case, then you are going to have to call all the scientific community a bunch of idiots, like you did me. Since, clearly definition #4 can be applied to pretty much anything complex... On a side note, some of the other definitions did not explain accurately what a contradiction is. Webster isn't going to be technical enough to explain clearly what is a contradiction and what is not.
lmfao. You never know what you're talking about, do you. How in the hell is it not blatantly contradictory? You said one thing in one line, then another thing in another line that clearly can't coincide with the first. If things appear contradictiry, but really aren't, it is usually worded in a way to make things co-exist. You made an absolute, and then broke it.

Please, stop trying to sound intelligent.
Originally posted by: supastar1568
sega dreamcast owned
Quoted for truth.

Actually, I was going to let this die, but after your post, I just couldn't leave it be.

First of all, your 6 of your 8 definitions used its own word to define it. That is a laughable definition. I cannot believe you would use something like that (actually I can). What you used was as moronic as someone saying "What is a car?" "A car is a car" Wow, that was informative. Again, none of your definations are accurate except save for 1. But even that definition didn't clearly define what it is and what it is not. Therefore, you still have no idea on what the law of contradiction is.

Again, it is laughable that you bolded the definitions that use its own word for the definition. How pathetic is that?

Fact is that you didn't read what I wrote and wanted to make a defence for being a dumbass. That is the only conclusion I come up with. Most people at AT are just interested at taking one sentance out of a paragraph and quoting it, instead of reading the entire paragraph and quoting it. Again, you are the dumbass for jumping the gun.

Lets face it, even if I gave you the benifit of the doubt on the contradiction, you still spoke before you knew what I was saying. You still commented without reading more than the first line. Then you try and shield it by trying to take a twist and say I contradicted myself and went on tangent. Fact is, even if I did contradict myself (which I did not, since I did not violate the law of contradiction) you still should have read what I wrote before any type of rebuttal. But, you didn't, and that made you look like a dumb ass.

So, read before you write. Then if you have a problem with what I say, then by all means, say it. I have no problem with a dissagrement, but I have a problem with a half-ass attempt at a rebuttal who didn't even read my entire post.

Again, I am sorry that you feel the need to defend consoles... I am sorry that your E-Peen was offended by the fact that computers can do more than consoles and have more graphics options. You can play with your inferior console, that is not a problem with me. But don't try and pretend like they are superior, because they are not.

Edit * You quote
So slowdowns never happen in in PC gaming? Oh, right, you sit there for 2 hours tweaking the plethora of minute settings before you actually play the game.
Now I know why you are pro console... Because you became frustrated with the video settings within a game menu... You spend hours trying to figure out how to enable OpenGL and turn on AA... Yes, for you a console is better, you proved it with your 2 hour tweaking statement. Anyone who spends 2 hours tweaking their settings for a game, clearly isn't intelligent enough to use a PC for games properly. No wonder you are so anti-PC, because you cannot figure them out. I am glad the truth finally came out!

PS. Did you figure out how to plug in your new console? Or put the disc in the console drive? I'll wait a few hours while you figure it out...

You are correct in that I did jumped the gun, like I admitted to in an earlier post. See I can admit when I am wrong unlike yourself.

If you equate jumping the gun with being a dumbass then wear that title well my friend because that post you jumped the gun on and assumed was mine was posted by Tsosczb.

I will not be posting in this thread anymore so go ahead and get the last post in because I know you have to. Just know that the more you post and try to sound intelligent the more you come off as not knowing what your talking about. You are a perfect example of a well read, know it all idiot.

P.S. You might want to take philosophy 101 so you can get a better understanding of the law of contradiction.
 

imported_michaelpatrick33

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This is hilarious. How about you simply own the consoles and a PC? Dear Lord in Silicon heaven they are inanimate objects. Computers will do far more than consoles but consoles do one thing very, very well and that is gaming. Since the consoles have a five (and if you are Sony a delusional 10year lifespan) and the PC's are always evolving wouldn't it be logical to speculate that even if the consoles move ahead of the PC's temporalily (maybe a year) that the evolving component of the PC will move it back ahead of the cosoles for the rest of the console life?

In 2010 we will have the XBOX 360 and the PS3 and Nintendo Revolution
In 2010 we will have ? PC components. Quad or eightway cores blah blah blah.

They will both rock and I will have some serious fun on both. YYEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW.

...

...
Wait! The walls, the walls, they .. they are breathing. Yes, yes they are breathing. My what big teeth you have my four padded walls.

You see I too can spit out speculatory gleams of predatory nonsense and then flame all these who disagree with me because my omniscient foresight is infallible in its scope and breath
 

coomar

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Originally posted by: MBrown
Can you hook it up to a monitor? say a L90D+?


yes, i believe both have dvi outputs

i plan on buying a ps3 probably 12-18 months after launch

platform games are too rare on pc
 

ArchAngel777

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Originally posted by: mcmikemc
Originally posted by: ArchAngel777
Originally posted by: Tsosczb
Originally posted by: ArchAngel777
I am talking progressive here, I can care less about interlaced. If you want to play interlaced games, more power to you.
So now there's something wrong with it being interlaced? Not only do you sound like you don't know crap about game consoles, but your ignorance is bleeding into other subjects as well.
Edit ** And for the record, please supply me with these abundance of games that support 720P and 1080i. The only ones you will be able to supply are the ones that do not tax the hardware to the limits, in which case is my point. Or if you do happen to find one, you can be sure that game is choppy in some areas...
So slowdowns never happen in in PC gaming? Oh, right, you sit there for 2 hours tweaking the plethora of minute settings before you actually play the game.
Originally posted by: ArchAngel777
If you use that term losely (like you are) then un-intelligent bad can be deduced from a contradiction and therefore, you should have continued to read, knowing that your definition of the word can apply to many things such as point #4, which you bolded.

If that is the case, then you are going to have to call all the scientific community a bunch of idiots, like you did me. Since, clearly definition #4 can be applied to pretty much anything complex... On a side note, some of the other definitions did not explain accurately what a contradiction is. Webster isn't going to be technical enough to explain clearly what is a contradiction and what is not.
lmfao. You never know what you're talking about, do you. How in the hell is it not blatantly contradictory? You said one thing in one line, then another thing in another line that clearly can't coincide with the first. If things appear contradictiry, but really aren't, it is usually worded in a way to make things co-exist. You made an absolute, and then broke it.

Please, stop trying to sound intelligent.
Originally posted by: supastar1568
sega dreamcast owned
Quoted for truth.

Actually, I was going to let this die, but after your post, I just couldn't leave it be.

First of all, your 6 of your 8 definitions used its own word to define it. That is a laughable definition. I cannot believe you would use something like that (actually I can). What you used was as moronic as someone saying "What is a car?" "A car is a car" Wow, that was informative. Again, none of your definations are accurate except save for 1. But even that definition didn't clearly define what it is and what it is not. Therefore, you still have no idea on what the law of contradiction is.

Again, it is laughable that you bolded the definitions that use its own word for the definition. How pathetic is that?

Fact is that you didn't read what I wrote and wanted to make a defence for being a dumbass. That is the only conclusion I come up with. Most people at AT are just interested at taking one sentance out of a paragraph and quoting it, instead of reading the entire paragraph and quoting it. Again, you are the dumbass for jumping the gun.

Lets face it, even if I gave you the benifit of the doubt on the contradiction, you still spoke before you knew what I was saying. You still commented without reading more than the first line. Then you try and shield it by trying to take a twist and say I contradicted myself and went on tangent. Fact is, even if I did contradict myself (which I did not, since I did not violate the law of contradiction) you still should have read what I wrote before any type of rebuttal. But, you didn't, and that made you look like a dumb ass.

So, read before you write. Then if you have a problem with what I say, then by all means, say it. I have no problem with a dissagrement, but I have a problem with a half-ass attempt at a rebuttal who didn't even read my entire post.

Again, I am sorry that you feel the need to defend consoles... I am sorry that your E-Peen was offended by the fact that computers can do more than consoles and have more graphics options. You can play with your inferior console, that is not a problem with me. But don't try and pretend like they are superior, because they are not.

Edit * You quote
So slowdowns never happen in in PC gaming? Oh, right, you sit there for 2 hours tweaking the plethora of minute settings before you actually play the game.
Now I know why you are pro console... Because you became frustrated with the video settings within a game menu... You spend hours trying to figure out how to enable OpenGL and turn on AA... Yes, for you a console is better, you proved it with your 2 hour tweaking statement. Anyone who spends 2 hours tweaking their settings for a game, clearly isn't intelligent enough to use a PC for games properly. No wonder you are so anti-PC, because you cannot figure them out. I am glad the truth finally came out!

PS. Did you figure out how to plug in your new console? Or put the disc in the console drive? I'll wait a few hours while you figure it out...

You are correct in that I did jumped the gun, like I admitted to in an earlier post. See I can admit when I am wrong unlike yourself.

If you equate jumping the gun with being a dumbass then wear that title well my friend because that post you jumped the gun on and assumed was mine was posted by Tsosczb.

I will not be posting in this thread anymore so go ahead and get the last post in because I know you have to. Just know that the more you post and try to sound intelligent the more you come off as not knowing what your talking about. You are a perfect example of a well read, know it all idiot.

P.S. You might want to take philosophy 101 so you can get a better understanding of the law of contradiction.

Interesting... Yes, I guess I was confused due to the long quotations being used. Yeah, I screwed up, I confused you with with tso or whatever. I can admit that, I have no problem admitting the truth. However, I think calling me an idiot has taken things to far. Best of luck in the future. later.
 

mcmikemc

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Originally posted by: ArchAngel777
Originally posted by: mcmikemc
Originally posted by: ArchAngel777
Originally posted by: Tsosczb
Originally posted by: ArchAngel777
I am talking progressive here, I can care less about interlaced. If you want to play interlaced games, more power to you.
So now there's something wrong with it being interlaced? Not only do you sound like you don't know crap about game consoles, but your ignorance is bleeding into other subjects as well.
Edit ** And for the record, please supply me with these abundance of games that support 720P and 1080i. The only ones you will be able to supply are the ones that do not tax the hardware to the limits, in which case is my point. Or if you do happen to find one, you can be sure that game is choppy in some areas...
So slowdowns never happen in in PC gaming? Oh, right, you sit there for 2 hours tweaking the plethora of minute settings before you actually play the game.
Originally posted by: ArchAngel777
If you use that term losely (like you are) then un-intelligent bad can be deduced from a contradiction and therefore, you should have continued to read, knowing that your definition of the word can apply to many things such as point #4, which you bolded.

If that is the case, then you are going to have to call all the scientific community a bunch of idiots, like you did me. Since, clearly definition #4 can be applied to pretty much anything complex... On a side note, some of the other definitions did not explain accurately what a contradiction is. Webster isn't going to be technical enough to explain clearly what is a contradiction and what is not.
lmfao. You never know what you're talking about, do you. How in the hell is it not blatantly contradictory? You said one thing in one line, then another thing in another line that clearly can't coincide with the first. If things appear contradictiry, but really aren't, it is usually worded in a way to make things co-exist. You made an absolute, and then broke it.

Please, stop trying to sound intelligent.
Originally posted by: supastar1568
sega dreamcast owned
Quoted for truth.

Actually, I was going to let this die, but after your post, I just couldn't leave it be.

First of all, your 6 of your 8 definitions used its own word to define it. That is a laughable definition. I cannot believe you would use something like that (actually I can). What you used was as moronic as someone saying "What is a car?" "A car is a car" Wow, that was informative. Again, none of your definations are accurate except save for 1. But even that definition didn't clearly define what it is and what it is not. Therefore, you still have no idea on what the law of contradiction is.

Again, it is laughable that you bolded the definitions that use its own word for the definition. How pathetic is that?

Fact is that you didn't read what I wrote and wanted to make a defence for being a dumbass. That is the only conclusion I come up with. Most people at AT are just interested at taking one sentance out of a paragraph and quoting it, instead of reading the entire paragraph and quoting it. Again, you are the dumbass for jumping the gun.

Lets face it, even if I gave you the benifit of the doubt on the contradiction, you still spoke before you knew what I was saying. You still commented without reading more than the first line. Then you try and shield it by trying to take a twist and say I contradicted myself and went on tangent. Fact is, even if I did contradict myself (which I did not, since I did not violate the law of contradiction) you still should have read what I wrote before any type of rebuttal. But, you didn't, and that made you look like a dumb ass.

So, read before you write. Then if you have a problem with what I say, then by all means, say it. I have no problem with a dissagrement, but I have a problem with a half-ass attempt at a rebuttal who didn't even read my entire post.

Again, I am sorry that you feel the need to defend consoles... I am sorry that your E-Peen was offended by the fact that computers can do more than consoles and have more graphics options. You can play with your inferior console, that is not a problem with me. But don't try and pretend like they are superior, because they are not.

Edit * You quote
So slowdowns never happen in in PC gaming? Oh, right, you sit there for 2 hours tweaking the plethora of minute settings before you actually play the game.
Now I know why you are pro console... Because you became frustrated with the video settings within a game menu... You spend hours trying to figure out how to enable OpenGL and turn on AA... Yes, for you a console is better, you proved it with your 2 hour tweaking statement. Anyone who spends 2 hours tweaking their settings for a game, clearly isn't intelligent enough to use a PC for games properly. No wonder you are so anti-PC, because you cannot figure them out. I am glad the truth finally came out!

PS. Did you figure out how to plug in your new console? Or put the disc in the console drive? I'll wait a few hours while you figure it out...

You are correct in that I did jumped the gun, like I admitted to in an earlier post. See I can admit when I am wrong unlike yourself.

If you equate jumping the gun with being a dumbass then wear that title well my friend because that post you jumped the gun on and assumed was mine was posted by Tsosczb.

I will not be posting in this thread anymore so go ahead and get the last post in because I know you have to. Just know that the more you post and try to sound intelligent the more you come off as not knowing what your talking about. You are a perfect example of a well read, know it all idiot.

P.S. You might want to take philosophy 101 so you can get a better understanding of the law of contradiction.

Interesting... Yes, I guess I was confused due to the long quotations being used. Yeah, I screwed up, I confused you with with tso or whatever. I can admit that, I have no problem admitting the truth. However, I think calling me an idiot has taken things to far. Best of luck in the future. later.

Well I am sorry for calling you an idiot. I probably would not take it very well either.


yea yea,

I know that I said I would not post here again but I realized it was wrong of me to do that.
 

compgeek89

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The only thing that will come to an end with the 360 is another generation of consoles

Thread over
 

mooncancook

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This is hilarious. How about you simply own the consoles and a PC?

I feel the same here. But i think the OP has done a great job promoting a flame war, just look at the topic summary: to end to all computers?. I don't think Microsoft ever intended to have the X360 replace all PCs. PCs and consoles are simply not made to compete with one another.

I think a more appropriate topic summary would be to end Sony's dominance, or just be honest and state to start a flame war. Microsoft build X360 to compete against PS3 and Nintendo Revo, so why are we focusing on comparison between PC and XBox, apple and orange?

Claiming the new gen console will end PC gaming is ridiculous. As long as ppl have the need to own a PC then I think PC gaming will do just fine. It's pointless to argue which is a better gaming platform, but one thing for sure is that the console will always have a bigger gaming market than PC, but a PC will always be a more capable productivity and entertainment system.

Like some have mentioned, you can do a lot of productivity work on your PC, but they forget to mention its entertainment value. Web browsing, instant messaging, d/l, play and encode all kinds of media files, console emulators, creating websites, just to name a few.

From a personal perspective, as long as I own a PC, I would spend a few extra hundreds to make it a decent gaming PC. If I have lots time to play games then I would definately own a console as well. Unfortunately I don't have lots gaming time, and my favorite games happen to be on PC platform, and last gen console graphics on low-res TV was a bit of turn-off, I primarily game on PC, except for some occational portable gaming on my PSP and GBA. I think if you are looting for either the death of PC gaming or the death of console gaming you are a short-sighted evil gamer.
 

gi0rgi0

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Its never the pc gamer that wants the console to die. Always the other way around. I wondery why ? Doenst make sense, hmmm.
 

Tsosczb

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Originally posted by: gi0rgi0
PC will still look better than x360, Hehe.
When it catches up.
Originally posted by: gi0rgi0
Its never the pc gamer that wants the console to die. Always the other way around. I wondery why ? Doenst make sense, hmmm.
Uhh, what?
 

carlosd

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PC won't die as a gaming plataform, without the PC the consoles won't have anything, let me see the PS3 GPU is a modified 7800 (created for the PC) and the ATI chip of Xbox 360 is just a result of years of development of GPUs for the PC.
Read, oh a good article from THG!, and even the CPU is based on a desktop computer CPU: PPC, also the developing of memory technologies comes from the PC developers.
http://www.tomshardware.com/column/20050924/index.html
 

Sonikku

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Originally posted by: gi0rgi0
Its never the pc gamer that wants the console to die. Always the other way around. I wondery why ? Doenst make sense, hmmm.

From my time spent on this board I have been lead to believe that there are indeed many such people in both camps.
 

Clauzii

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7 Cell SPEs each running at 3.2GHZ with 256KB of local memory will do a LOT of physics calculations - that is where IBM, SONY and Toshiba hit it right I think, while future games will rely HEAVILY on realtime physics.
 
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