Xeon L5639 Overclocking on X58

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Hi All,

My first post so be kind please. Having stumbled upon this thread last week whilst looking at what upgrades were available to me being the owner of a Sabertooth X58 and an i7-930 processor (at least 5 years old now) I decided to purchase an X5670 processor off eBay UK for £60. Now my trouble is that I have had no success overclocking the i7-930 following any of the guides in the past and have always wondered if I just got the duff board or processor. It has also been mentioned that maybe having 6 sticks of 2Gb Corsair XMS3 memory to give me 12Gb ram might also effect my ability to overclock. My cooler a Thermaltake model I believe may also be hampering my overclock.

So I intend to transfer the motherboard and remaining guts into a new Deepcool Dukase case and install a Corsair H110 AIO to see if this gives me better results.

Anyway my first question is what is the likely maximum BCLK I can set on the X5670 without needing to change any other bios parameters?

My second question is can anyone who has a stable overclocked X5670 on a sabertooth X58 (Burpo maybe?) supply me with their full settings for the AI Tweaking page of the bios or if not give me a clue about which are the important settings to change from auto.

I have taken a copy of Burpo's settings from page 101 of this thread and intend to try them once I am sure my cooling is adequate.

Many thanks in advance.

Richard

I've read two or three posts across different boards claiming Burpos settings have killed their system. Please refrain from following it. I think it's the PLL setting that is the culprit.

You can change the BCLK to around 150-160 and be ok. That'll give you around 3.3Ghz - 3.5Ghz

 

[Burpo]

I call BS.. Nobody's system was killed running these settings. Someone that doesn't own a Sabertooth is clueless. Notice not a single setting is in the red..
Set multiplier at 24, bclk 180 = 4.3Ghz. You'll have to play with settings some. Here are settings I used with X5650, many are set the same as X5670 I had for awhile. Can't run bclk as high due to heat, but these may help you some. Good luck!

These are old screenshots & I've dropped cpu offset voltage from .30 to .22 now..

Also bumped PLL to 1.90 & QPI/DRAM Core Voltage is now 1.32500

 

[Makaveli]

On some boards, (Asus P6T Deluxe V2 for example) it reduces the multiplier based on how much power the processor draws, and thus lowers the clockspeed.

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I'm pretty sure this was fixed with a bios update.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

I call BS..

What happened here?

post 4516
http://www.overclock.net/t/1461359/...l5639-benchmarks-inside/4500_50#post_24173987

 

[Burpo]

Nothing in the first link, 2nd link is vague, could have been anything. Like I said, NONE of the settings are in the red. 4 are yellow, but that's normal. This board has seen a few hexcores, and is still running like a champ..

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Nothing in the first link, 2nd link is vague, could have been anything. like I said, NONE of the settings are in the red. 4 are yellow, but that's normal, and this board has seen a few hexcores, and is still running like a champ..

That's what I was wondering but from what I read I was like

 

[Einzige]

I've heard X5650's draw some major power once overclocked.

What kind of power draws are you guys getting?

 

[ShootistUK]

I call BS.. Nobody's system was killed running these settings. Someone that doesn't own a Sabertooth is clueless. Notice not a single setting is in the red..
Set multiplier at 24, bclk 180 = 4.3Ghz. You'll have to play with settings some. Here are settings I used with X5650, many are set the same as X5670 I had for awhile. Can't run bclk as high due to heat, but these may help you some. Good luck!

Many Thanks

Have just transferred the PC to the new case with Corsair X110 and the cooling I hope is now good enough to allow some overclocking to take place.

I will let you know how it goes later. Giving the PC a day to settle down first.

 

[ShootistUK]

Having given it a day I have discovered that the MCH temperature on my Sabertooth x58 board is running very warm around 80 deg C in the bios. I assume that this is due to having much less direct cooling having moved to an AIO for the processor. I am therefore waiting for the postman to deliver a small cooler to mount on the heatsink and a ram cooler to help move air around also. Given this I have decided to leave everything at stock until I can reduce this temperature.

 

[Burpo]

Probably needs new thermal interface material..

 

[jforce321]

Been a while since I've been on here, but I managed to get a x58 sabertooth off my local craigslist for 50 bucks . So I was looking on ebay for some xeons and a guy was willing to do 55 on a x5660 and I wasnt familiar with the highest multipliers you could get since I only owned a x5650 the last time I had one of these systems, I know you usually go x5670 if you dont go x5650 but was wondering how much of a disadvantage I'd be at overclocking wise going between those two.

 

[Shmee]

Question for a friend of mine: he has an i7 950 moderately OCed, and is complaining that he can't get consistently over 120 FPS in SW:BF @1080p with his new GTX 1080, and instead is getting about the same as before with 80-100, he had a GTX 690. (I figured CPU botteleneck)

My questions is, would one of these Xeons with a good OC > 4GHz do a lot to eliminate a CPU bottleneck, or is it not worth pairing a 1080 on a X58 board?

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Cheapest way to tell is to overclock that thing higher and find out. What is his opinion of "mild" with his i7 950? 3.8Ghz? 3.6GHz? a 32nm should be able to hit 4.4GHz. I've found a QPI speed @ 3.8GHz to quicken things up, it won't improve FPS but it does make this a little bit speedier.

 

[Burpo]

i7 950 is 45nm and will heat up quickly once you push it. Yes, good idea to go with hexcore Xeon instead.

 

[jforce321]

Spoiler

Decided to post what I got setup as my gf's pc, its more power than she'll ever need but it was cheaper in the end to sell off her previous g3258/mobo combo and a couple other things and change to this.

Found the x58 Sabertooth for 50 local on my craigslist and got the x5660 for 55 off ebay. Got it running at 4ghz @1.24v with a 900cb score on r15 . My original x5650 setup I sold off was trash and required near 1.4v to even hit 4.2ghz and this thing is already running faster than that system did lol.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/sp9Jf8

 

[Einzige]

OK so I'm entering the final stages od my PC build and having been in-between jobs throughout this project it's about damn time.

I recently purchased a sapphire nitro r9 fury tri-x, 16gb ram, and a 1000w. Cougar power supply. I slapped it in to my PC just to see where I was at.

I'm obviously limited by the DX58SO Mobo and i7-920 at stock speeds. I was getting 40-45 fps in movement/action in mgsv ground zeroes and 55fps in grim Dawn when in town. At stock the fps on HD was only x2 that of my 960m laptop.

However I turned on AMDs super resolution downscaling and discovered my fps was the same at 2560x1600 as it was 1080p. Obviously you bottleneck.

I managed to over clock the 920 to 3.4ghz... I can do more I'm sure but I did it qui K and dirty. I got my geound zeroes fps up to 60 on ultra, no matter what resolution was being pumped out. I feel as if the cpu is still holding me back though.

Upgrade time. I'm split on what I should get though.

Processor: is there any benefit to getting an x5670? Or should I just go with x5650?

Mobo: Burpo linked a Dell 730x Mobo that apparently over clocks well. Is it truly good enough though? It LOOKS cheaper than other varieties. Basically, $100 for Dell or $200 for another variety. Dollarbfir dollar, what's the best option? I don't want to save money for substandard performance.

 

[Einzige]

Would like input. Want more opinions/information on the ms 7543 board used in Dell 730x and x58 Alienware. Burp recommended it and says it it's well but it looks cheap and has me hesitating.

Should I go for that or fork the extra cash for a p6 or an ud3r?

 

[Burpo]

A few members here have used it, but if you can get a P6X58D Premium or Sabertooth or other name brand board, by all means go for it. It'll definitely be less hassle, and probably easier to overclock.

 

[Timmah!]

Been a while since I've been on here, but I managed to get a x58 sabertooth off my local craigslist for 50 bucks . So I was looking on ebay for some xeons and a guy was willing to do 55 on a x5660 and I wasnt familiar with the highest multipliers you could get since I only owned a x5650 the last time I had one of these systems, I know you usually go x5670 if you dont go x5650 but was wondering how much of a disadvantage I'd be at overclocking wise going between those two.

Damn, these are so cheap nowadays? I am about to sell my x58 build - well mobo (UD7) + CPU (980x) + 6x2GB 1600 Kingston DDR3 + Intel X25M gen2 80GB + Win7 64bit OEM tied to the board - and was hoping to get for all this together at lest 400 EUROs.... i assume thats wishful thinking?

 

[Einzige]

A few members here have used it, but if you can get a P6X58D Premium or Sabertooth or other name brand board, by all means go for it. It'll definitely be less hassle, and probably easier to overclock.

Hassle and ease aren't my concern really. What I would like to know is:

A) Reliability--will the Dell board be more likely to fail on me?
B) Maximum overclock--does it overclock as much as the others?
C) Is there any other reason I should choose another board over this one?

I'm willing to deal with the flashing and all of that. I just want performance per dollar.

What I like about the Dell is I can sell my dx58so and get the Dell for free basically. An Intel board+920 can essentially be exchanged for a Dell+x5650 and I can upgrade without spending any money. However I'm willing to spend more for better performance.

EDIT: Uh oh.

"ATI GPU users will not able to control any chassis fans or LEDs with this process."

Apparently I lose some fan control with the 730x board because I'm using an r9 fury.

What does this mean? Will fans blow 100% all the time? What sort of fan problems will I have?

 

[jforce321]

Damn, these are so cheap nowadays? I am about to sell my x58 build - well mobo (UD7) + CPU (980x) + 6x2GB 1600 Kingston DDR3 + Intel X25M gen2 80GB + Win7 64bit OEM tied to the board - and was hoping to get for all this together at lest 400 EUROs.... i assume thats wishful thinking?

On ebay they still command a pretty penny I imagine ($150 US seems like the average from the time of posting), but this was through local channels on the craiglist in my area, obviously doubt the guy knew what he had which is why I took advantage of it.

Also the 980x goes for like 2-3 times the price of the xeons on ebay.

 

[Timmah!]

Thank you. So it seems perhaps those 400 EUROs i would want for all the stuff i listed could perhaps be acceptable.

 

[Einzige]

Well I decided to take the plunge on a ud3r rev. 2. The 730x was just a little sketchy but I so trust burpo's rcommendatipn--but for the extra price I get a more solid board and USB 3.0 and sata III.

Looks like I'll be selling a 920 and dx58so soon. Should sell easy. Also got a spare monitor, power supply, and ram lol.

But he'll I got a badass gaming rig on the cheap. Even before reselling these other components.

 

[LarsSvenn01]

Hi, im new to this site. Been reading a lot (not all) of this thread and other threads about the Xenon x58 cpu's. You guys really started my upgrade itch

Im not that good at overclocking anymore, forgot a lot. Been glued to the monitor reading forums for 3 days now after i noticed this xenon upgrade possibilty,
Except for the GPU rest is from December 2008, not that much to lose i figure. Gotten my 920 @ 4,4ghz stable 24/7 earlier, but over the years the temperature has gone up and im happy with 3,8ghz(can push it to 4,2ghz still, if i manage to ignore the noise). Hate to have to much fan noise.

Im struggling with deciding to try x5650/x5670/x5680/x5690. Seems to be a multiplier or locking issue with Asus p6t? which one would benefit me the most then? Seems like it has been answered/verified/declined already, but i cant get my head around the answer.

"So consensus seems that some ASUS boards (mainly vanilla P6T) have problems with turbo of 18x working in Windows. Other boards seem to work fine with it. Most system should be easily be able to hit 3.6GHz (18x200BCLK) at or under 1.3V." I assume P6T Deluxe is also affected

I can however see the difference between power consumption/heat. They all seem to go between 100-200$ (inc ship) so price dosent really matter that much.


Goal is to overclock to a stable level around 4 - 4,2ghz and not to warm. I think i would need either 4ghz+ or 3,6-3,8ghz low temperature to be any point to upgrade.
Having stock 3ghz 6 core would mostly boot sale value in the future if i dont keep the pc a secondary desktop. Will most likely buy completly new pc in 3-4 years



Spec:
Asus P6T (think its deluxe v1)
GTX 680 (soon GTX 970)
I7 920 @ 3,8ghz + good cooler
OCZ Gold 1600mhz 1,65v 2gb x3 (soon same 2gb x6 or new kit 4gbx3 1600mhz)
1000w psu
Well ventilated case

Current settings, havent been into hardware for many years and that was a short period too as i was very satisfied. Forgot a lot, but i still find it very interesting (possibly the upgrade itch motvating me like hell)

 

[MongGrel]

The thread is back from the dead.

Not sure a P6T V1 could run one, you need a BIOS update at any rate perhaps.

X5675 would probably be the best performance chip for heat, have an X5680 on the main rig with a P6T7, and a X5650 on the HTPC with a P6T V2 in the bedroom I'm using at the moment.