Xeon X3210 or the E8400

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: alfa147x
Im not a big fan of AMD i rather have an Intel ...

But performance will overcome fanboyism

any intel chip that can do this?

i think you missed my post with the 227 dollar quadcore that shouldnt break your budget.

 

[alfa147x]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: alfa147x
Im not a big fan of AMD i rather have an Intel ...

But performance will overcome fanboyism

any intel chip that can do this?

i think you missed my post with the 227 dollar quadcore that shouldnt break your budget.

lol not this time, thanks ill look into it

Originally posted by: aigomorla
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php...d9ad6cdb50b9b57639e771

here 227 dollar Kentsfield good to go on LGA775 boards. Xeon X3210 uses an 8x multi instead of 9x multi.

Thats if you need a quadcore, and are heavy into encoding or multi threaded aps. And yes this will pwn a phenom expecially overclocked.

8x400 ~ 3.2ghz with decient cooling is most definitely possible on this chip.

 

[imported_Iketh]

Originally posted by: harpoon84

Originally posted by: Iketh

Originally posted by: Markfw900
And 2.57 vs over 4 ghz ? It can almost equal the quad even if you had smp software that uses 4 threads. And I think the 8400 is faster per clock, so maybe they are equal.

something tells me OP wont be overclocking... and if he/she does, would you rather have a much more stressed dual running all the time or a slightly o/c quad??

LOL I like how you try to spin your Phenom sucking at overclocking as a positive!

An E8400 @ 4GHz wouldn't be any more 'stressed' than your Phenom. Both chips would be running close to the limits. It just happens that the limit for the E8400 is around 4GHz, whilst your Phenom is around 2.6GHz. Just because the overclock is huge doesn't make it 'stressful'. It's called headroom, and the E8400 has heaps, whilst your Phenom has little.

excuse me, i can boot this phenom at 2.8ghz 1.5v and run benches... THAT would be stressing it... u dont think at 2.6 1.3v it'll last 10 years??

 

[harpoon84]

Yeah, and you can boot an E8400 @ 4.3GHz 1.5V and run benches, THAT would be stressing it too... you get my drift?

The E8400 has heaps of headroom to spare, your 9500 doesn't. It's that simple.

 

[dmens]

Originally posted by: Iketh
u dont think at 2.6 1.3v it'll last 10 years??

nope

 

[XBoxLPU]

E8400

 

[v8envy]

aigomorla, any ideas re: which budget boards will support that Xeon? That's a fantastic deal, the xeon stock coolers aren't complete crap for a budget overclock.

I'll go look re: my ds3l right this second, if it's good to go I may just have me *another* quad. Gah. This hobby can get stupid.

 

[lopri]

I'd be trying out Phenom like yesterday, IF THE FREAKING PLATFORM WAS STABLE. All I'm hearing are mysterious lock-ups, OS install failures, sudden performance drops, hard disk or raid array disappearings, etc - which all point to the platform immaturity. To make matters worse, they're not even cheap. Shame on AMD..

 

[v8envy]

Lopri, that's got me worried as well. Where there's smoke there's fire. Plenty of reviewers downplay 'minor issues' they encounter even in the brief time they do reviews, but the issues certainly don't sound minor to me. I had lots of fun with Slot A and a VIA chipset board when those were brand new, I'm not into the whole alpha testing a platform thing these days.

Others users report 0 problems.

So it boils down to: "Do you feel lucky, punk? Well, do you?" Stories of the 'cheapie' (read: same price category as a DS3L or P35-E or Neo2 or blood iron) AM2+ boards physically catching on fire aren't exactly encouraging. My answer to that is: heeey I think I'll try that cheapie Xeon instead...

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: v8envy
aigomorla, any ideas re: which budget boards will support that Xeon? That's a fantastic deal, the xeon stock coolers aren't complete crap for a budget overclock.

I'll go look re: my ds3l right this second, if it's good to go I may just have me *another* quad. Gah. This hobby can get stupid.

GIGABYTE P35-DS3L


virtually any p35 board will work for that processor. Its the same exact chip as the Q6600 only with a 8x multi instead of 9x

 

[goobee]

I am returning my Phenom 9500 to newegg. I was hoping to get a bit more performance over my old processor, an e6600 overclocked to 3ghz. I did not see any performance increase even with software that was SMP aware. Additionally, stability with the Phenom was somewhat shaky. Perhaps it's because the platform is new but for me, it's not a viable option.

 

[imported_dinGLeBeRRy]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: v8envy
aigomorla, any ideas re: which budget boards will support that Xeon? That's a fantastic deal, the xeon stock coolers aren't complete crap for a budget overclock.

I'll go look re: my ds3l right this second, if it's good to go I may just have me *another* quad. Gah. This hobby can get stupid.

GIGABYTE P35-DS3L


virtually any p35 board will work for that processor. Its the same exact chip as the Q6600 only with a 8x multi instead of 9x

its time for work.

 

[Markfw]

My X3210 was on a Gigabyte S3 board (P965) and now its on a DS4 (P35), both no problems.

 

[alfa147x]

Originally posted by: Markfw900
My X3210 was on a Gigabyte S3 board (P965) and now its on a DS4 (P35), both no problems.

By DS4 do you mean the GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P35 ? because that is the board I was looking at

 

[Markfw]

There are many Gigabyte boards, most start with "GIGABYTE GA-P35-" and end with DS3L,DS3P,DS3R,DS4,DQ6 etc.. They should all work. I have a DS4 which currently has an X3210 in it, but the DS3L is also a fine board.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: alfa147x

Originally posted by: Markfw900
My X3210 was on a Gigabyte S3 board (P965) and now its on a DS4 (P35), both no problems.

By DS4 do you mean the GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P35 ? because that is the board I was looking at

ANY LGA775 Board will take this cpu.

If you want to overclock it deciently, get a decient quality board.

Gigabyte P35-DS4 is an excellent board. So is the ASUS P5K-E however if your going to load it up for long periods of time, like encoding, F@H or WCG, you need to put some enzo ram sinks over the top mosfets to keep those cool as well.

 

[alfa147x]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: alfa147x

Originally posted by: Markfw900
My X3210 was on a Gigabyte S3 board (P965) and now its on a DS4 (P35), both no problems.

By DS4 do you mean the GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P35 ? because that is the board I was looking at

ANY LGA775 Board will take this cpu.

If you want to overclock it deciently, get a decient quality board.

Gigabyte P35-DS4 is an excellent board. So is the ASUS P5K-E however if your going to load it up for long periods of time, like encoding, F@H or WCG, you need to put some enzo ram sinks over the top mosfets to keep those cool as well.

ok, this is the 1st time i will be overclocking a system and dont want to push it too hard
I know what mosfets are on robots but never cooled ones on a computer do the one near the CPU need the heat sinks or all of them?
Any good tutorial for OCing ?

 

[lopri]

Originally posted by: dmens

Originally posted by: Iketh
u dont think at 2.6 1.3v it'll last 10 years??

nope

Why do you think so?