XFX FX5800 $109????

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this mod could make it a very worthwhile purchase indeed. I'm not positive it works with the NU though....

 

[modedepe]

Originally posted by: Zebo
nm..i don't want to upset rollo bringing up noise

Good idea. You people are going to give Rollo a heart attack by making him defend his beloved 5800 constantly

I actually got mine a few days ago and the fan doesn't annoy me much, especially when it's running at the lower speeds.

edit: I don't really think these will be coming back in stock either. I was shocked when I found newegg had any at all before, seeing as they've been discontinued for so long.

 

[fibes]

Can this card be softmodded to a 5800 Ultra?

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: fibes
Can this card be softmodded to a 5800 Ultra?

You just use your favorite nV overclocking utility and it'll be an Ultra minus the FlowFX cooler, because as Rollo pointed out, most 5800s hit Ultra speed no problem=500/1ghz. That Quadro FX2000 mod would be the shiznit though

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: fibes
Can this card be softmodded to a 5800 Ultra?

It can be overclocked to 5800Ultra speeds.
It can be softmodded to a Quadro FX2000, workstation card.
MANY $$$
(almost 10x the price)

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: jjyiz28

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Cawchy87
9700np would beat it if you can find one for 110

You must not have seen the benchmarks I posted above cawchy. The 9700np beat it in half of them, which is not "beating it". (and the 9700np couldn't even run one bench due to driver issues) The 5800NU is roughly equivalent to a 9700np.

but doesn't the 5800 run all DX9 games in DX8 graphics while the 9700 runs DX9 games in DX9 graphics???

I doubt the 5800 would get 9fps in DX8. My 5800Ultra ran Far Cry "ok".

And no, the 5800s are DX9 cards. They are slow in DX9 partially due to "weak" shaders, partially due to having to run in 32bit precision unless the game specifically has a 16/32 bit mixed mode running.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: modedepe

Originally posted by: Zebo
nm..i don't want to upset rollo bringing up noise

Good idea. You people are going to give Rollo a heart attack by making him defend his beloved 5800 constantly

I actually got mine a few days ago and the fan doesn't annoy me much, especially when it's running at the lower speeds.

edit: I don't really think these will be coming back in stock either. I was shocked when I found newegg had any at all before, seeing as they've been discontinued for so long.

LOL :beer:

 

[reallyscrued]

damn it isnt the dustbuster? it aint even worth it...hehe

 

[SneakyStuff]

Originally posted by: reallyscrued
damn it isnt the dustbuster? it aint even worth it...hehe

have you posted one constructive or facutal piece of information throughout this entire thread?

 

[futuristicmonkey]

Originally posted by: Rollo

I doubt the 5800 would get 9fps in DX8. My 5800Ultra ran Far Cry "ok".

And no, the 5800s are DX9 cards. They are slow in DX9 partially due to "weak" shaders, partially due to having to run in 32bit precision unless the game specifically has a 16/32 bit mixed mode running.

define "ok"

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: futuristicmonkey

Originally posted by: Rollo

I doubt the 5800 would get 9fps in DX8. My 5800Ultra ran Far Cry "ok".

And no, the 5800s are DX9 cards. They are slow in DX9 partially due to "weak" shaders, partially due to having to run in 32bit precision unless the game specifically has a 16/32 bit mixed mode running.

define "ok"

For me it was 10x7 med.Q with Farcry demos and 5800U. Never had a chance to try it on the full game though. I could use some AA&AF on both demos till I hit the caves in research, then it was like the first 6th grade dance, because that was the first time I ever experienced a strobe light

 

[SBGTF]

Okay. I got the card installed tonight. I had no problems with the installation other than forgeting to remove the coverplate from the PCI slot it took up. Its definately a two slot card.

You gotta keep in mind I'm upgrading from a Radeon 64MB DDR VIVO. This was a card from before Radeon's had numbers like they do now. It was just a Radeon.

The card is only noticably loud when you first fire up the machine. Then it quiets down. I haven't done any gaming on it yet.

Aquamark increased from 7489 to 24317
3dMark03 increased from 227 to 2886

This is on an AMD 64 3000+ with 1GB of Kingston Value Ram PC3200. The board is an Epox 8KDA3J.

For $100 is certainly seems like a good buy at this point. I hope to be able to get 18 months out of this card.

 

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Originally posted by: SBGTF
Okay. I got the card installed tonight. I had no problems with the installation other than forgeting to remove the coverplate from the PCI slot it took up. Its definately a two slot card.

You gotta keep in mind I'm upgrading from a Radeon 64MB DDR VIVO. This was a card from before Radeon's had numbers like they do now. It was just a Radeon.

The card is only noticably loud when you first fire up the machine. Then it quiets down. I haven't done any gaming on it yet.

Aquamark increased from 7489 to 24317
3dMark03 increased from 227 to 2886

This is on an AMD 64 3000+ with 1GB of Kingston Value Ram PC3200. The board is an Epox 8KDA3J.

For $100 is certainly seems like a good buy at this point. I hope to be able to get 18 months out of this card.

Those scores are very low for a A643000+ 5800 system. What forcewares for board and card are you using? Remember to turn off vert synch? Clean drivers well in between?

 

[SBGTF]

I uninstalled the ATI drivers and the ATI control center. Using Add/Remove Programs. I uninstalled the card itself from Device Manager. Then physically removed the ATI card and installed the XFX card.

I'm using whatever nVidia drivers came on the XFX disc.

Where do you control V-Synch? In the benchmark or in the display properties?

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Vsynch is in the properties, and those drivers are probably ancient that came on the disc so grab the latest off nV's site. The 5800/U saw some very good speed bosts from drivers over time so you may be impressed by the difference.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: futuristicmonkey

Originally posted by: Rollo

I doubt the 5800 would get 9fps in DX8. My 5800Ultra ran Far Cry "ok".

And no, the 5800s are DX9 cards. They are slow in DX9 partially due to "weak" shaders, partially due to having to run in 32bit precision unless the game specifically has a 16/32 bit mixed mode running.

define "ok"

Playable at 10X7 no AA/AF in DX8.1, nowhere near as good as my 6800NU or 6800GT, of course.

 

[daveybrat]

SBGTF,

You really need to go to Guru3d.net and download the 66.81 Nvidia drivers! I just got my XFX 5800 card in yesterday and here's my numbers:

3dMark03 = 4230

That's on an Athlon XP 2400+ at stock speeds and 512MB DDR266.
You should be getting around 4600-4800 range on your system.

 

[SBGTF]

Okay. I got the 61.77 off of NVidia's site. Wow. I didn't realize a driver could make that much of a difference

3DMark03 Was 2886 to 4752
Aquamark3 was 24317 to 36428

Thanks for the tip on the drivers!!! This is a great card for $109 IMHO.

 

[nRollo]

It's an excellent buy for $109., enjoy.

 

[daveybrat]

Ah, there we go, that's where your score should have been, drivers are a large part of a card's performance. Glad to see you resolved it. I love my 5800 i got as well. It's just as quiet as a FX5900 card with performance almost matching my MSI 5900XT

 

[SBGTF]

If you don't mind a "newbie" question, what is a softmod? Someone on this thread mentioned the card could be softmodded into a 5800 Ultra.

 

[nitromullet]

A softmod is where you flash the BIOS of your video card with one from a card of the same series that has higher clockspeeds and/or voltages and makes your card recognized as the higher model card by the system. A hardmod is when you have to alter the hardware by connecting cut bridges with a conductive material to "re-enable" the functions (usually pipes) that were disabled by the cut bridges. A hardmod is usually followed by a softmod as well.

In your case, I don't think it's necessary to softmod. If you can clock your card up to ultra speeds while keeping it stable, you should get ultra performance. The main difference would be that you would have to enable coolbits in your registry and overclock the card again everytime you update drivers.

 

[J0SHUA]

N00B question!

I cant find a geforce FX 5800, u guys mean the GF 5700 LE??

 

[Ronnie]

I got in on this deal as a card for my budget rig. At startup it is louder than my 6800gt. Here is my 3dmark01 score for those that bench.



http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8166071

 

[modedepe]

Originally posted by: J0SHUA
N00B question!

I cant find a geforce FX 5800, u guys mean the GF 5700 LE??

Newegg is out of the fx5800, and most likely not getting anymore back in stock.