Orly? News to me. I just did some quick looking and out of the 6-7 companies, about half were 1:7 and the other half 1:9 for a 16"/carbine. The more expensive rifles were 1:7, if that means anything. Seems to me a 1:8 would make the most sense but maybe not.Most are 1/7 these days.
Honestly that Hi-Point doesn't seem bad at all, though it def don't have "sleek" looks. Then again, neither does the Kel-Tec Sub 2000.I want a 9mm carbine.. Been thinking about going hi-point route or just something more expensive. Mostly just for plinking since I have around 1600rounds of 9mm. Purchased all before the frenzy.
Honestly that Hi-Point doesn't seem bad at all, though it def don't have "sleek" looks. Then again, neither does the Kel-Tec Sub 2000.
Orly? News to me. I just did some quick looking and out of the 6-7 companies, about half were 1:7 and the other half 1:9 for a 16"/carbine. The more expensive rifles were 1:7, if that means anything. Seems to me a 1:8 would make the most sense but maybe not.
http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/featured/psa-16-m4-premium-patrol-carbine-package.html
Not as good of a deal but still pretty smokin'.
Ok, let's rephrase. Most quality rifles are 1/7. Daniel Defense, BCM, Noveske, Colt, etc. A lot of midtier companies use 1/9. I do agree 1/8 makes the most sense. For most 1/9 is better than 1/7. No many can afford to plink with 75gr rounds.
I have been contemplating picking up an AR, and just learned that JP Enterprises (which seems by all accounts to be among the best makers in the world) is in Hugo, MN, the very town where my assistant lives, about 30 miles from here. Am seriously toying with going a little crazy and building a CTR-02. As it happens I've had a hideously expensive week (major car repair and new Samsung PN51F8500 TV), so may want to let the AmEx cool a little bit first . . .
If you have any mechanical skills at all, and I'm not meaning machining skills just assembling, do yourself a favor and build your own. You will learn 10x as much about the weapon and come to appreciate what a modern marvel it really is.
DIY can be cheaper but even for the same price it's more satisfying and you get to customize the feel of the weapon to you.
I'll give you your first lesson for free: buy things you're not sure about, like furniture, from Brownells. They have a lifetime, no questions asked return policy. There's nothing like it, in any industry.
It's like Newegg crossed with Cosco before they gimped their return policy.
35 ftlb, it's just finger tight then wrench it to the next hole. Gas tube holds it in place so it can't vibrate loose.
A multitool with the barrel nut pegs is like $20 on ebay/amazon.
That's the minimum. Everyone I know torques them to around 60-70 with the maximum spec being 80. Also, you're meant to torque it down, loosen it some, torque it, loosen and so forth until you get the right alignment on the nut for the gas tube and it's tight enough. I've done it with a friend, but I don't recommend a newbie do it alone.
Don't quote me on this, but I've noticed that many SS barrels are 1 in 8. My Noveske Afghan is 1 in 8. It's typically the chrome lined barrels that are 1 in 7 or 1 in 9.
Edit: I still need to get a picture up of mine.
I've read some pretty competent smiths who say that the minimum spec is plenty between the indexing pin and the gas tube.
What do ya'll think about the Kel Tec Sub 2000 gun and similar ones? Link = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kel-Tec_SUB-2000
It is a carbin that can use hand gun bullets and magazines such as 9mm and .40. One can have a hand gun such as Glock/S&W/etc. along with this gun and don't have to buy other caliber bullets and magazines. Good? Bad? Ugly? Meh?
Are there any other manufacturers with similar guns? I am not really keen on Kel Tec because of quality concern.
1/7 for long 69+ gr match bullets, hence more expensive "match" quality barrels will be 1/7. 1/7 used in mil for super long M856 tracer rds.
1/9 is ideal for 55/62 gr plinkers shooting commonly available bulk ball.
Though if you want nasty lethal, 1/12 with 55gr is the best.
Both of my builds are 1:8" twist. Seems to work well with everything 50gr-77gr, which is all of what I reload.
Ugh, I can't stand the designer "camo" stuff. That particular one would really only work if you find yourself wandering through a bone field. Not even in the same hemisphere as sweet...or they should just stop calling it camouflage because it just...doesn't.
It breaks up the pattern of the gun. The pattern is more important than the color.
I would recommend not building your own for your first AR. Sure, it ain't rocket science and you'd learn how the gun works first-hand, but I don't really see the advantage over just ordering a complete AR. You can learn a ton about AR-15s by watching a couple YouTube videos and reading a book, too. Instead of buying all the necessary (and those that are just very nice to have) tools, making sure all the parts match and you didn't overlook something, I'd just get a complete. I do plan to build my next AR myself but I've had mine for several years and feel quite confident in picking out the right parts and doing so (even then I still need to buy several tools).If you have any mechanical skills at all, and I'm not meaning machining skills just assembling, do yourself a favor and build your own. You will learn 10x as much about the weapon and come to appreciate what a modern marvel it really is.I have been contemplating picking up an AR, and just learned that JP Enterprises (which seems by all accounts to be among the best makers in the world) is in Hugo, MN, the very town where my assistant lives, about 30 miles from here. Am seriously toying with going a little crazy and building a CTR-02. As it happens I've had a hideously expensive week (major car repair and new Samsung PN51F8500 TV), so may want to let the AmEx cool a little bit first . . .
DIY can be cheaper but even for the same price it's more satisfying and you get to customize the feel of the weapon to you.
I'll give you your first lesson for free: buy things you're not sure about, like furniture, from Brownells. They have a lifetime, no questions asked return policy. There's nothing like it, in any industry.
It's like Newegg crossed with Cosco before they gimped their return policy.
I would recommend not building your own for your first AR. Sure, it ain't rocket science and you'd learn how the gun works first-hand, but I don't really see the advantage over just ordering a complete AR. You can learn a ton about AR-15s by watching a couple YouTube videos and reading a book, too. Instead of buying all the necessary (and those that are just very nice to have) tools, making sure all the parts match and you didn't overlook something, I'd just get a complete. I do plan to build my next AR myself but I've had mine for several years and feel quite confident in picking out the right parts and doing so (even then I still need to buy several tools).
Obviously it's his choice; if Don Vito really enjoys tinkering, then have at it man.