For warranty purposes, it depends on the gun manufacturer. I don't think CZ covers damage by reload failures based on their warranty page, so best to assume the answer is no until you've talked to them.
Someone posted this (shorty?) thread, which brings me to my next question...is it ok to use factory reloaded ammo?
Let's try this again, minus the time-warp...
Man, the firearm hobby sure is addictive and expensive. I just got my CCW permit a few months ago, and I've already purchased:
S&W Bodyguard, .380
Colt 1911 XSE Government Model, .45 ACP (stainless)
Ruger SR22, .22 LR (cheap target practice)
Sig P250 2SUM, 9x19 (full-sized frame / slide + subcompact frame / slide; tritium sights)
One of the nice things ive discovered on the guns is if you get something and you dont care for it you can generally sell it or trde it fairly easily. Long as you take care of them. Theres a local forum just for gun trades near me and it sees a lot of traffic and many popular models sell/trade within a few days it seems. So if you dont like the sig p250, toss it up on a similar site and then you can try something new. One of my friends does it fairly often. Its kind of a neat wat to get to shoot tons of different guns. Just keep the ones you really like (like my sigp226 and S&W19-3 ...ill never get rid of em)
Man, the firearm hobby sure is addictive and expensive. I just got my CCW permit a few months ago, and I've already purchased:
S&W Bodyguard, .380
Colt 1911 XSE Government Model, .45 ACP (stainless)
Ruger SR22, .22 LR (cheap target practice)
Sig P250 2SUM, 9x19 (full-sized frame / slide + subcompact frame / slide; tritium sights)
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Worst (perhaps best?) of all, I already have many more firearms that I'd like to check out and potentially own some day. Beretta 92FS, CZ P-01, some form of .357 magnum revolver, Ruger 10/22, AR-15, some kind of bolt-action .308, and maybe even a Glock some day.
Kazaam lives in Indiana. You doesnt need a lisence to transport the a handgun anywhere. If I recall, You need to keep it unloaded and the mag seperate from the gun. Having said that, get you LTCH. The hardest part is paying for for it.
February 2003
The P-01 is now a NATO classified pistol and issued the NATO stock number NSN 1005-16-000-8619.
The CZ P-01 is the culmination of several years of exhaustive design and testing. Ceska Zbrojovka has always had some of the most rigorous testing requirements in the world but, the Czech National police has required that they go even further, the testing regiment for this new pistol was the most demanding anyone has ever encountered. There are almost 20 specific requirements covering everything from accuracy to interchangability, from safety to reliability/durability and everything in between.
The pistol: The CZ P-01 is a Gen 3 pistol that began as a requirement for a lightweight compact pistol that will deliver the accuracy and durability of a full size, full weight pistol. This was no small task, several manufacturers declined to even start the project.
The first thing you notice about this pistol is the M3 light rail on the frame, a first for CZ, the alloy frame is a little wider at the top than a steel CZ 75. This adds strength and rigidity for mounting the light and increasing the accuracy and service life of the pistol. The P-01 also sports enhanced controls as well as a drop free magazine and a lanyard loop.
The pistol was required to pass a wide variety of tests:
The police required that the pistol ensure the highest level of comfort, an extended slide release was added as well as an extended magazine release and the trigger was reshaped to give a more consistent pull throughout the trigger stroke.
The pistol must be 100% reliable in extreme conditions, the following is a list of some of the minimum requirements.
Must be able to complete the following without failure:
4000 dry firings
3000 De-cockings
Operator level disassembly 1350 times with out ware or damage to components.
Complete disassembly 150 times, this is all the way down, pins, springs etc.
100% interchangability, any number of pistols randomly selected, disassembled, parts mixed and reassembled with no failures of any kind including loss of accuracy.
Safety requirements:
Drop test
1.5 meter (4.9” drop test, this is done 54 times with the pistol loaded (blank) and the hammer cocked. Dropping the pistol on the butt, the muzzle, back of the slide, sides of the gun, top of the slide, in essence, any angle that you could drop the gun from. This is done on concrete and 0 failures are allowed! A failure is the gun firing.
3meter drop (9.8” 5 times with the pistol loaded (blank) and the hammer cocked, This is done on concrete and 0 failures are allowed! A failure is the gun firing.
After these tests are complete the gun must fire without service.
The factory contracted an independent lab to do additional testing on guns that previously passed the drop tests. These pistol were dropped an additional 352 times without failure.
The pistol must also complete an environmental conditions test:
This means cold, heat, dust/sand and mud.
The pistol must fire after being frozen for 24 hours at –35C (-36F).
The pistol must fire after being heated for 24 hours at 70C (126F)
The pistol must fire after being submerged in mud, sand and combinations including being stripped of oil then completing the sand and mud tests again.
Service life:
The service life requirement from the Czech police was 15,000 rounds of +P ammo!
The pistol will exceed 30,000 rounds with ball 9mm.
Reliability:
The reliability requirements for the P-01 pistol are 99.8%, that’s a .2% failure rate.
This equals 20 stoppages in 10,000 rounds or 500 “Mean Rounds Between Failure” (MRBF)
During testing, the average number of stoppages was only 7 per 15,000 rounds fired, this is a .05% failure rate, a MRBF rate of 2142 rounds! Over 4 time the minimum acceptable requirement.
The U.S. Army MRBF requirement is 495 rounds for 9mm pistols with 115 grain Ball ammunition.
Heritage:
The P-01 is based on the CZ 75, the most used pistol in the world. Over 60 countries use it as the standard side arm of their Armies, National police forces, National security agencies or other Law enforcement organizations. No other pistol can make this claim.
i recommend anyone looking for a daily carry to check out the CZ P-01
http://www.cz-usa.com/press-releases/102/
Very true. The difficulty for me is finding a 9mm pistol that fits my hands well. Most of the grips feel very wide (S&W M&P, Springfield XD, Glock, Sig P226, Beretta 92, etc.) and the P250 was one of the few that fit well. The CZ 75 was another one.
By the way, I'm all ears on suggestions of other 9mm's with slender grips to check out.
We get it, you like CZ...
i was sharing WHY.
A full-sized .45 is great for non-daily carry but IMHO unless you are spending $1500+, you arent buying one I'd stake my life on.
I owned a Glock 21, a friend owns a Glock 23. Another a Glock 29. I think they're ugly lego blocks, but despite that they WORK. And you don't spend tons of money on it. Glock makes a compact and sub-compact 45. Kimber makes compact carry .45s. S&W makes a alloy framed 1911. There are other commander/officer sized 1911s for a reasonable price. You're either ignorant of those guns, or plainly ignoring them. There is no one size fits all gun. And while you may not carry a .45 daily, I know I have no problem with that.
You guys need to stop quoting Alkemyst, I can see what he's saying.
The guy doesnt know much about anything but especially guns. Ruger made a 1911 available for eight hundred dollars and its been getting awards for quality & reliability. Its just not as fancy or shiny as all the others, thats its only lacking attribute. The other guys have a wider line of models with more cool features and stuff, but a basic 1911 at Rugers price is a damn good start for anybody with less specific demands.
Firearms aside, it is an extremely expensive hobby due to the extras required. Aside from .22, just about everything is relatively expensive to shoot. I've been paying ~$20 / 50rds for .380 and .45, and ~$13 for 50rds of 9mm. I've already been through several hundred rounds of .45 and 100-150 rounds of 9mm, and the cost adds up quick. .22 is great though; $20 for 500rds. For that price, I can shoot all day.
Go online and buy a case of 1000 rounds dirt cheap. Spend the next three years shooting it off. Quit paying store prices especially 50 rounds at a time.
most i know go through 50-100rounds/week
Go online and buy a case of 1000 rounds dirt cheap. Spend the next three years shooting it off. Quit paying store prices especially 50 rounds at a time.
1000 rounds isn't even dirt cheap right now. Best I've found the other day for brass 9mm is just under $11/50 rds with shipping on a 1000 round box. Not much better than you can find single boxes for.