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irishScott

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Well i was just informed by a cz retailer that if they start the runs in September they won't be available until mid to late October. Fffffffffffuuu!

Now to decide if I want to wait (probably), or if I want to get something different.

I had a similar wait for my Springfield. For me it was worth it. Patience usually is.
 

irishScott

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I gues saving up money can't really hurt. Might as well just do it. Weird that they do it in batches.

That's how they support such diverse product lines. They don't have the production capacity to produce dozens of models year round and even remotely meet demand for each model, so they prioritize. The best selling models are cranked out year round, the less popular models come in batches.
 

pontifex

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so i'm watching the walking dead (no spoilers!) and want a colt python. It's beautiful. But i have a feeling it's ridiculously out of my budget. i've heard theyre extremely desirable by collectors.

1500-2000+ for a decent condition one.
 
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pontifex

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What's the deal with all this pricey colt stuff? I've seen things selling for $10-15K...double diamond stuff I think.

Not sure what you are seeing for 10-15k unless it's full auto...

The Python was a VERY well made revolver. Fit and quality was top of the line. They were very popular at the the time.

They aren't making them any more. They are THE revolver to own.

High demand, low supply, no longer being manufactured = HIGH PRICE
 

alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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The .44 Magnum in that series is usually cheaper but doesn't have a cool name like the Python. They look almost identical.
 

RampantAndroid

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Not sure what you are seeing for 10-15k unless it's full auto...

The Python was a VERY well made revolver. Fit and quality was top of the line. They were very popular at the the time.

They aren't making them any more. They are THE revolver to own.

High demand, low supply, no longer being manufactured = HIGH PRICE

Honestly though, I'm not sure they're worth the money they go for, really. Unless you're firing hot loads that are at the absolute limit and would shake a Ruger or S&W loose it makes zero difference really. Beyond being harder to find and possibly "looking cooler" I don't really see a need for buying a python or anaconda. But to each their own.
 

schneiderguy

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So are there more common rounds that are mostly only used in revolvers? Like in semi autos I see .22, 9mm, and .45 a lot...but for revolvers I see weird shit like .357, .44, .38 special, etc.

What reasonably inexpensive (less than $700) revolver would you recommend for a first revolver?

Can't go wrong with S&W.



That is my 686.
 

BladeVenom

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Honestly though, I'm not sure they're worth the money they go for, really. Unless you're firing hot loads that are at the absolute limit and would shake a Ruger or S&W loose it makes zero difference really. Beyond being harder to find and possibly "looking cooler" I don't really see a need for buying a python or anaconda. But to each their own.

If you shoot hot loads, I think you'd want the Ruger, they have the heaviest frame. The Colts had the smoothest trigger, and looked the nicest.
 

RampantAndroid

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If you shoot hot loads, I think you'd want the Ruger, they have the heaviest frame. The Colts had the smoothest trigger, and looked the nicest.

If you mean in .44, sure, the superhawk works. But in .357 I believe the colt will fare better. But I have a personal dislike of Ruger...
 

gorobei

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the pythons were nice but they used older internal designs from the det.special/police positive days: leaf mainspring vs coil mainspring in the king cobra .357 and anaconda .44. The main problem was that the action would get out of time fairly regularly and require a tune up by qualified gunsmith. It was the rolls-royce of revolvers but it spend as much time at the dealership garage as a rolls.
 

RampantAndroid

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In my boredom I have been reading and looking a lot at the sig p226 and I kinda really want one. This'll be a toughie. By the time I can get the cz 75b, I'll have enough for a sig easily. Sooo I dunno what to do. It seems the cz reviews more favorably and more people like it, but something about the look of that p226 is awesome (I know, I know, don't judge it by looks).

Like mentioned before, Sig's quality sounds like it went downhill lately. Really, go find a range with all of these guns and rent them. You keep looking at 9mm, so it would probably be cheap to rent a bunch of 9mm guns and fire a mag or two through each. I'd also add a FN HiPower to your list.
 

RampantAndroid

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Thanks for the advice. Guess its time to go find a range where I can rent these, then. It's a bitch though, because it seems our city is the only one without a range. Also, even if I find a range where I can rent guns, finding a cz 75b to shoot is gonna be tough. :/

Is it really uncommon? I'm pretty sure the range near me has one, and a FN HP clone as well.
 

Merad

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In my boredom I have been reading and looking a lot at the sig p226 and I kinda really want one. This'll be a toughie. By the time I can get the cz 75b, I'll have enough for a sig easily. Sooo I dunno what to do. It seems the cz reviews more favorably and more people like it, but something about the look of that p226 is awesome (I know, I know, don't judge it by looks).



Sig makes one of the finest pistols in the world. But I wouldn't recommend it as a first gun due to $$$. The price difference between it and the CZ is probably enough to buy at least 1000 rounds of 9mm.

I don't know if you've realized it yet but buying a gun actually isn't the biggest expense of shooting. Even shooting a 9mm you will probably spend $30-50 or more every time you visit the range (assuming range fees, targets, ammo, etc).

Of course you can do things to lower the costs (buy a range membership instead of paying per visit, buy targets online or print your own, hunt for ammo sales, buy online or reload) but even so if you shoot regularly within a few years you'll have spent more than the cost of the gun.
 

alkemyst

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Sig makes one of the finest pistols in the world. But I wouldn't recommend it as a first gun due to $$$. The price difference between it and the CZ is probably enough to buy at least 1000 rounds of 9mm.

I don't know if you've realized it yet but buying a gun actually isn't the biggest expense of shooting. Even shooting a 9mm you will probably spend $30-50 or more every time you visit the range (assuming range fees, targets, ammo, etc).

Of course you can do things to lower the costs (buy a range membership instead of paying per visit, buy targets online or print your own, hunt for ammo sales, buy online or reload) but even so if you shoot regularly within a few years you'll have spent more than the cost of the gun.

Collectors buy guns at times based just on looks. Those that want to defend themselves buy guns based on performance.

Nothing wrong with either IMHO.

I will say, and I am a believer now; I know a ton of gun owners. Most of these guys probably have a couple million at least in the bank. Many of them swear by CZ and have traded out their higher priced guns or simply put them on the back burner.

This is mostly dealing with those that carry, almost everyone I know swears by 1911.
 
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