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velillen

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Do you guys buy ammo in bulk? How do you like them?

I purchased Winchester 9mm in bulk boxes (100 each) from Academy and in one of the boxes, 9 of them have rust spots all over the shell and 1 of them has a deep cut/deform between the bullet and the shell (right at the neck) - no way I will use it to shoot.

I just sent an email to Winchester and will post a pic or two later. Very disappointed with Winchester quality.

Sounds like it got left out in the weather. Was the cardboard box showing any signs of having been wet?

Ive bought plenty of bulk ammo. in fact if i buy factory ammo its all i buy unless its hunting rounds or self defense rounds. But most bulk is still packaged in 20 round/50round boxes. Even the loose bulk BVAC ive bought has been just fine too.
 

Svnla

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Then your complaint isn't with Winchester
Winchester made the product, right? Unless Academy or someone else pulled and switched the rusty/deform bullets with the good ones during the process from the factory to the Academy store?

Sounds like it got left out in the weather. Was the cardboard box showing any signs of having been wet?

Ive bought plenty of bulk ammo. in fact if i buy factory ammo its all i buy unless its hunting rounds or self defense rounds. But most bulk is still packaged in 20 round/50round boxes. Even the loose bulk BVAC ive bought has been just fine too.

The box is fine, no sight of damage or being wet or anything wrong with it from the outside. The other bulk box (in which I purchased at the same time and place) was fine.

I will post a pic or two later and ya'll will see. I could not believe it either.
 
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In the abstract, I like the idea of another handmade gun from a local company to complement my JP Enterprises JP-15, but the Boberg seems weird and awfully expensive for a pocket gun. I do like innovation, but most of the ways this departs from normal gun designs seem worse than, well, normal gun designs.
 

Jeeebus

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I've never heard anything good about the boberg. It's minimally smaller than my pm9 so never had any real interest.
 

alkemyst

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Do you guys buy ammo in bulk? How do you like them?

I purchased Winchester 9mm in bulk boxes (100 each) from Academy and in one of the boxes, 9 of them have rust spots all over the shell and 1 of them has a deep cut/deform between the bullet and the shell (right at the neck) - no way I will use it to shoot.

I just sent an email to Winchester and will post a pic or two later. Very disappointed with Winchester quality.

In bulk less than 10% that may have shot fine is probably ok.

Lot's of bulk ammo requires the gun owner to inspect first.
 

coxmaster

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Finally got the scope mount for my 5.45x39 AR build.. Upper is ready to go, and got some ammo in. Hopefully I'll get to shoot this shortly.



**Yes, it is still missing a compensator, haven't decided on one yet
 
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Finally got the scope mount for my 5.45x39 AR build.. Upper is ready to go, and got some ammo in. Hopefully I'll get to shoot this shortly.



**Yes, it is still missing a compensator, haven't decided on one yet

Looks like you may want to use an extended mount - the eye relief is going to put your head pretty far back when looking through that scope.
 

coxmaster

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Looks like you may want to use an extended mount - the eye relief is going to put your head pretty far back when looking through that scope.

Yeah, I realized that once the mount got here. I'm usually pretty far back on the stock anyway, so I'm going to try it out once, if it doesn't work out an extended mount will definitely be in my future
 

Zargon

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In bulk less than 10% that may have shot fine is probably ok.

Lot's of bulk ammo requires the gun owner to inspect first.

If he means the 100 rnd value packs like you get at a regular store......those should be 100% good to go. He's not ordering bases of surplus from some military surplus warehouse
 

Svnla

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Here are the pictures of the rusty/deformed rounds from Winchester. In a box of 100 rounds (value pack), not "bulk" bucket/drum/large container.




 
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Here are the pictures of the rusty/deformed rounds from Winchester. In a box of 100 rounds.


Interesting. I have shot thousands of those white-box Winchester 9mm rounds without incident. Is my memory failing me or was I paying $10-15 for these 100-count boxes at Wal Mart in the 2003-04 timeframe?
 

IEC

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Interesting. I have shot thousands of those white-box Winchester 9mm rounds without incident. Is my memory failing me or was I paying $10-15 for these 100-count boxes at Wal Mart in the 2003-04 timeframe?

Your memory is correct. They were a lot cheaper back then. Now, $26-30 is more likely.
 

Sluggo

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The ones with discoloration on the casing I would shoot without a second thought, but my 9mm has yet to choke on any round.

The buggered up one I would definitely complain about, that is a quality control issue.
 

Fenixgoon

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4 new magazines on their way. 10-round, CA-legal, instead of 15-round, standard "high-capacity" magazines
 

schneiderguy

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Do you guys buy ammo in bulk? How do you like them?

I purchased Winchester 9mm in bulk boxes (100 each) from Academy and in one of the boxes, 9 of them have rust spots all over the shell and 1 of them has a deep cut/deform between the bullet and the shell (right at the neck) - no way I will use it to shoot.

I just sent an email to Winchester and will post a pic or two later. Very disappointed with Winchester quality.

QC is probably non-existent since manufacturers are just trying to pump out guns and ammo as fast as they can.

I shot about 2,000 Winchester 9mm cartridges last year and they were all fine.
 

NutBucket

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4 new magazines on their way. 10-round, CA-legal, instead of 15-round, standard "high-capacity" magazines
LaRue appears to have some nice "modified" 30rd mags for sale. I haven't had a chance to check it out since I can't buy "weapons" at work
 

IEC

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4 new magazines on their way. 10-round, CA-legal, instead of 15-round, standard "high-capacity" magazines

The only 10 round mags I have are for my Savage Mark II...

The rest are STANDARD capacity 30 round and 15 round magazines.
 

alkemyst

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If he means the 100 rnd value packs like you get at a regular store......those should be 100% good to go. He's not ordering bases of surplus from some military surplus warehouse

Correct, but even retail boxes can be old or improperly stored. Most often old ammo has gotten wet at some point and rust happens.
 
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