YAWT- Alternative to Dips?

[Nutdotnet]

My gym remodeled and when they did they removed the dip "machine". It was a really old piece of equipment but it was great because it had a belt and a weight stack to allow me to do weighted dips.

It currently does have another dip setup but it isn't the same, and the way it's built does not allow me to say, buy a belt with a chain on it to load up plates around my waist.

I tried doing flys but...I don't like them...I like dips as they give my chest and triceps a pretty decent workout.

I was doing this:

Flat DB Bench
Incline DB Bench
Weighted Dips
Skull-Crushers
Close-Grip Bench Press

What can I do in replace of Weighted Dips? I *COULD* go do dips without additional weight but...eh...not really what I'm after.

 

[SVT Cobra]

Just do em at home, two tables next to eachother are all you need. Not to mention if you like the definition if brings out do them for endurance not weight.

IMO weighted dips are pretty useless and other exercises such as skull crushers or french curls can strengthen the same areas a lot quicker.

 

[Nutdotnet]

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Just do em at home, two tables next to eachother are all you need. Not to mention if you like the definition if brings out do them for endurance not weight.

IMO weighted dips are pretty useless and other exercises such as skull crushers or french curls can strengthen the same areas a lot quicker.

Thanks SVT. However, I don't do them for definition, I'm one of the many who believe that definition comes from diet, ie, I'm not a believer in "high-reps for tone".

I <3 dips, I do them weighted because I like to stick between 4-8 reps per set. Skull-crushers and French-Curls are great but they are isolation exercises. I'm looking for another compound exercise to add along side my bench sets.

Do you have a suggestion for a compound exercise for chest/shoulders/triceps?

 

[HN]

try cable crossovers (top-down)

 

[SVT Cobra]

Originally posted by: Nutdotnet

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Just do em at home, two tables next to eachother are all you need. Not to mention if you like the definition if brings out do them for endurance not weight.

IMO weighted dips are pretty useless and other exercises such as skull crushers or french curls can strengthen the same areas a lot quicker.

Thanks SVT. However, I don't do them for definition, I'm one of the many who believe that definition comes from diet, ie, I'm not a believer in "high-reps for tone".

I <3 dips, I do them weighted because I like to stick between 4-8 reps per set. Skull-crushers and French-Curls are great but they are isolation exercises. I'm looking for another compound exercise to add along side my bench sets.

Do you have a suggestion for a compound exercise for chest/shoulders/triceps?

Definition is not toning. Definition is the way a muscle grows and is shaped due to specific lifts. There is no such thing as toning.

 

[Nutdotnet]

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra

Originally posted by: Nutdotnet

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Just do em at home, two tables next to eachother are all you need. Not to mention if you like the definition if brings out do them for endurance not weight.

IMO weighted dips are pretty useless and other exercises such as skull crushers or french curls can strengthen the same areas a lot quicker.

Thanks SVT. However, I don't do them for definition, I'm one of the many who believe that definition comes from diet, ie, I'm not a believer in "high-reps for tone".

I <3 dips, I do them weighted because I like to stick between 4-8 reps per set. Skull-crushers and French-Curls are great but they are isolation exercises. I'm looking for another compound exercise to add along side my bench sets.

Do you have a suggestion for a compound exercise for chest/shoulders/triceps?

Definition is not toning. Definition is the way a muscle grows and is shaped due to specific lifts. There is no such thing as toning.

Yup, I understand there is no such thing as toning.

So how do you "shape" a muscle based on specific lifts? Do you do incline chest to "sculpt" your "upper chest muscles"?

 

[SVT Cobra]

Originally posted by: Nutdotnet

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra

Originally posted by: Nutdotnet

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Just do em at home, two tables next to eachother are all you need. Not to mention if you like the definition if brings out do them for endurance not weight.

IMO weighted dips are pretty useless and other exercises such as skull crushers or french curls can strengthen the same areas a lot quicker.

Thanks SVT. However, I don't do them for definition, I'm one of the many who believe that definition comes from diet, ie, I'm not a believer in "high-reps for tone".

I <3 dips, I do them weighted because I like to stick between 4-8 reps per set. Skull-crushers and French-Curls are great but they are isolation exercises. I'm looking for another compound exercise to add along side my bench sets.

Do you have a suggestion for a compound exercise for chest/shoulders/triceps?

Definition is not toning. Definition is the way a muscle grows and is shaped due to specific lifts. There is no such thing as toning.

Yup, I understand there is no such thing as toning.

So how do you "shape" a muscle based on specific lifts? Do you do incline chest to "sculpt" your "upper chest muscles"?

Anb example of the definition I mean is, doing curls will give you biceps bulging more to the top, doing underhand pull downs will give you biceps shaped more towards your forarms. Enother is appealing unless you combine the too. Hence the whole symetry category in bbing.

 

[arrfep]

Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
My gym remodeled and when they did they removed the dip "machine". It was a really old piece of equipment but it was great because it had a belt and a weight stack to allow me to do weighted dips.

It currently does have another dip setup but it isn't the same, and the way it's built does not allow me to say, buy a belt with a chain on it to load up plates around my waist.

I tried doing flys but...I don't like them...I like dips as they give my chest and triceps a pretty decent workout.

I was doing this:

Flat DB Bench
Incline DB Bench
Weighted Dips
Skull-Crushers
Close-Grip Bench Press

What can I do in replace of Weighted Dips? I *COULD* go do dips without additional weight but...eh...not really what I'm after.

Weighted bench dips. Sit on the edge of a standaolone bench, perpendicular to it. Put the heels of your hands on the edge you are sitting on. Put your feet up on another bench in front of you, far enough away that you can "dip" down till your butt touches the floor. Stack a couple 45's on your lap.

Dip.

Repeat.

 

[crt1530]

Buy a weighted vest? Keep an eye on craigslist for used gym equipment and see if you can keep "your" dip station at the gym? Did you ask them what they did with the old one?

arrfep's suggestion is the closest you'll get without considerable effort. Bench dips just aren't the same, though. I feel your pain.

 

[edro]

A weighted dip is basically a decline barbell press. Throw some decline presses into your chest routine. (dumbbell or barbell)

 

[async]

I was going to suggest holding a dumbell between your feet, but if you're using multiple plates, a dumbell that heavy might not be feasible.

These hit your triceps hard and work the chest too.
http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/PectoralSternal/DBPullover.html

If you're willing to try dips with a 45 balanced on your head, make sure you get a video

John

 

[xXped0thugXx]

Originally posted by: arrfep

Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
My gym remodeled and when they did they removed the dip "machine". It was a really old piece of equipment but it was great because it had a belt and a weight stack to allow me to do weighted dips.

It currently does have another dip setup but it isn't the same, and the way it's built does not allow me to say, buy a belt with a chain on it to load up plates around my waist.

I tried doing flys but...I don't like them...I like dips as they give my chest and triceps a pretty decent workout.

I was doing this:

Flat DB Bench
Incline DB Bench
Weighted Dips
Skull-Crushers
Close-Grip Bench Press

What can I do in replace of Weighted Dips? I *COULD* go do dips without additional weight but...eh...not really what I'm after.

Weighted bench dips. Sit on the edge of a standaolone bench, perpendicular to it. Put the heels of your hands on the edge you are sitting on. Put your feet up on another bench in front of you, far enough away that you can "dip" down till your butt touches the floor. Stack a couple 45's on your lap.

Dip.

Repeat.

this is what i do and was going to suggest, the dip machine at my gym sucks as well.

 

[jiggahertz]

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra

Originally posted by: Nutdotnet

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Just do em at home, two tables next to eachother are all you need. Not to mention if you like the definition if brings out do them for endurance not weight.

IMO weighted dips are pretty useless and other exercises such as skull crushers or french curls can strengthen the same areas a lot quicker.

Thanks SVT. However, I don't do them for definition, I'm one of the many who believe that definition comes from diet, ie, I'm not a believer in "high-reps for tone".

I <3 dips, I do them weighted because I like to stick between 4-8 reps per set. Skull-crushers and French-Curls are great but they are isolation exercises. I'm looking for another compound exercise to add along side my bench sets.

Do you have a suggestion for a compound exercise for chest/shoulders/triceps?

Definition is not toning. Definition is the way a muscle grows and is shaped due to specific lifts. There is no such thing as toning.

You can't "shape" a muscle. Muscular shape is genetic, you can cause your muscles to grow/shrink as a whole though.

Decline bench is the closest movement to dips.

 

[SVT Cobra]

Originally posted by: jiggahertz

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra

Originally posted by: Nutdotnet

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Just do em at home, two tables next to eachother are all you need. Not to mention if you like the definition if brings out do them for endurance not weight.

IMO weighted dips are pretty useless and other exercises such as skull crushers or french curls can strengthen the same areas a lot quicker.

Thanks SVT. However, I don't do them for definition, I'm one of the many who believe that definition comes from diet, ie, I'm not a believer in "high-reps for tone".

I <3 dips, I do them weighted because I like to stick between 4-8 reps per set. Skull-crushers and French-Curls are great but they are isolation exercises. I'm looking for another compound exercise to add along side my bench sets.

Do you have a suggestion for a compound exercise for chest/shoulders/triceps?

Definition is not toning. Definition is the way a muscle grows and is shaped due to specific lifts. There is no such thing as toning.

You can't "shape" a muscle. Muscular shape is genetic, you can cause your muscles to grow/shrink as a whole though.

Decline bench is the closest movement to dips.

Yes you very well can. Idiots who say everything is genetic just use it as an excuse.

Ever wonder why a swimmer looks different than a runner? Perfect example.

 

[jiggahertz]

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra

Originally posted by: jiggahertz

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra

Originally posted by: Nutdotnet

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Just do em at home, two tables next to eachother are all you need. Not to mention if you like the definition if brings out do them for endurance not weight.

IMO weighted dips are pretty useless and other exercises such as skull crushers or french curls can strengthen the same areas a lot quicker.

Thanks SVT. However, I don't do them for definition, I'm one of the many who believe that definition comes from diet, ie, I'm not a believer in "high-reps for tone".

I <3 dips, I do them weighted because I like to stick between 4-8 reps per set. Skull-crushers and French-Curls are great but they are isolation exercises. I'm looking for another compound exercise to add along side my bench sets.

Do you have a suggestion for a compound exercise for chest/shoulders/triceps?

Definition is not toning. Definition is the way a muscle grows and is shaped due to specific lifts. There is no such thing as toning.

You can't "shape" a muscle. Muscular shape is genetic, you can cause your muscles to grow/shrink as a whole though.

Decline bench is the closest movement to dips.

Yes you very well can. Idiots who say everything is genetic just use it as an excuse.

Ever wonder why a swimmer looks different than a runner? Perfect example.

It's body composition not muscular shape. I'm not sure why anyone would need an excuse as to why their muscles are shaped a certain way anymore than they would that their hair is brown. Size can be controlled, shape cannot. It's like people that try to work their "upper chest".

 

[crt1530]

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra

Originally posted by: jiggahertz

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra

Originally posted by: Nutdotnet

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Just do em at home, two tables next to eachother are all you need. Not to mention if you like the definition if brings out do them for endurance not weight.

IMO weighted dips are pretty useless and other exercises such as skull crushers or french curls can strengthen the same areas a lot quicker.

Thanks SVT. However, I don't do them for definition, I'm one of the many who believe that definition comes from diet, ie, I'm not a believer in "high-reps for tone".

I <3 dips, I do them weighted because I like to stick between 4-8 reps per set. Skull-crushers and French-Curls are great but they are isolation exercises. I'm looking for another compound exercise to add along side my bench sets.

Do you have a suggestion for a compound exercise for chest/shoulders/triceps?

Definition is not toning. Definition is the way a muscle grows and is shaped due to specific lifts. There is no such thing as toning.

You can't "shape" a muscle. Muscular shape is genetic, you can cause your muscles to grow/shrink as a whole though.

Decline bench is the closest movement to dips.

Yes you very well can. Idiots who say everything is genetic just use it as an excuse.

Ever wonder why a swimmer looks different than a runner? Perfect example.

Do you ever notice people whose flexed biceps only take up the upper third to half of their upper arm? That has solely to do with the origin and insertion points of their muscles, not whether they're doing chins versus preacher curls. Shape is how symmetrical your abs are or what the outline of the underside and middle of your pecs looks like. You cannot change these as they are determined by genetics. The problem we run into is how people define "shape" and then argue with people who use a different definition.

I agree with you that a larger and more developed muscle looks quite different than an undeveloped one, but you have to be careful about your definitions.

 

[Special K]

Originally posted by: jiggahertz

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra

Originally posted by: jiggahertz

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra

Originally posted by: Nutdotnet

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Just do em at home, two tables next to eachother are all you need. Not to mention if you like the definition if brings out do them for endurance not weight.

IMO weighted dips are pretty useless and other exercises such as skull crushers or french curls can strengthen the same areas a lot quicker.

Thanks SVT. However, I don't do them for definition, I'm one of the many who believe that definition comes from diet, ie, I'm not a believer in "high-reps for tone".

I <3 dips, I do them weighted because I like to stick between 4-8 reps per set. Skull-crushers and French-Curls are great but they are isolation exercises. I'm looking for another compound exercise to add along side my bench sets.

Do you have a suggestion for a compound exercise for chest/shoulders/triceps?

Definition is not toning. Definition is the way a muscle grows and is shaped due to specific lifts. There is no such thing as toning.

You can't "shape" a muscle. Muscular shape is genetic, you can cause your muscles to grow/shrink as a whole though.

Decline bench is the closest movement to dips.

Yes you very well can. Idiots who say everything is genetic just use it as an excuse.

Ever wonder why a swimmer looks different than a runner? Perfect example.

It's body composition not muscular shape. I'm not sure why anyone would need an excuse as to why their muscles are shaped a certain way anymore than they would that their hair is brown. Size can be controlled, shape cannot. It's like people that try to work their "upper chest".

This is correct. You cannot change the genetic shape of your muscles. You can increase their size and reduce your bodyfat which may give the muscle the apperance of having changed shape, but it's still the same muscle as before.

 

[Nutdotnet]

Originally posted by: jiggahertz

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra

Originally posted by: Nutdotnet

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Just do em at home, two tables next to eachother are all you need. Not to mention if you like the definition if brings out do them for endurance not weight.

IMO weighted dips are pretty useless and other exercises such as skull crushers or french curls can strengthen the same areas a lot quicker.

Thanks SVT. However, I don't do them for definition, I'm one of the many who believe that definition comes from diet, ie, I'm not a believer in "high-reps for tone".

I <3 dips, I do them weighted because I like to stick between 4-8 reps per set. Skull-crushers and French-Curls are great but they are isolation exercises. I'm looking for another compound exercise to add along side my bench sets.

Do you have a suggestion for a compound exercise for chest/shoulders/triceps?

Definition is not toning. Definition is the way a muscle grows and is shaped due to specific lifts. There is no such thing as toning.

You can't "shape" a muscle. Muscular shape is genetic, you can cause your muscles to grow/shrink as a whole though.

Decline bench is the closest movement to dips.

(I was waiting for someone to say this (genetics)...thanks!)

Here's some common bodybuilding myths:

LINK

(scroll down to #14)

 

[Nutdotnet]

Decline bench didn't even cross my mind...thanks guys!