Yet another BF2 Crash

[ericnmu]

Recently, I have been the victim to numerous BF2 crashes. I can't pin point the cause of the problem, so I was hopeing someone here could help.

After playing Battlefield for 10-15 minutes, my screen flashes some distorted lines for a split second, then goes black. The sound loops for about 5 seconds, then makes a high pitch beep. I am forced to hold the power and hard reboot.

These problems are becoming more frequent. I havent changed anything hardware wise, but I have reformated my computer. The software setup is still the same. Heat is not an issue, I have a well set up case with good internal cooling.

AMD64 3200+
Asus K8VSE-Deluxe (most recent bios).
1 GB Kingston Hyperx 3200
Audigy 2 ZS (most recent drivers)
BFG 6800GT w/ latest nvidia drivers.
Windows is updated etc.

Any other relecvent information? Thanks.

 

[Tbirdkid]

one thing you didnt mention in your sig about your rig, your psu.

 

[ericnmu]

Power has never been an issue. I have a 420W TruePower.

 

[Gooberlx2]

Originally posted by: ericnmu
Power has never been an issue in the past. I have a 420W TruePower.

fixed.

Do some memtests, chkdsks, and whatever other standarized component tests there are.

I was having "all of a sudden" with being kick out to a blue with 0x00008086 blue screen. Apparently had to do with ACHI on the SATA controller and needed to download the most recent Intel Application Accelerator....which is now "Intel Matrix Storage Manager".

 

[ericnmu]

Just ran a few more tests. I have yet to do memtest, that will wait for overnight.
I'll test it some more.

 

[luigi1]

Memory is easy to point at. Prove that it aint so. Good luck.

 

[imported_FishTaco]

Have you checked your vid card fan? Do you only get this behavior with BF2? What other games do you play?

 

[ericnmu]

I have a NV Silencer for my 6800.
Yes, the problem only happends with BF2.

Before I formated the problem would occur once every couple hours. Not too bad.
I reformated the other day, putting the same exact software on, same updates, etc. Now the problem is happening every time I play.

I havent installed any other games since I formated, but I will try some benchmarks or some other games.

 

[ericnmu]

Memtest is showing 0 errors.
Im in the lengthy problematic format process right now. Ofcourse, Windows is screwing up my RAID drivers, so I have to wait till tomorrow to get a new floppy.

When I finish the format I will install ONLY the updates and drivers and then install and test BF2. Hopefully I cant figure out if its hardware or software.

 

[Stuxnet]

Do what I did: throw your BF2 DVD against the wall, shattering it to pieces, and then rediscover happiness.

Dirt > EA

 

[Scarpozzi]

We had a couple of guys have these kinds of problems with their systems. I know that I've had to reinstall BF2 twice for whatever reason to keep it from crashing. Usually it was the patches that caused problems... If you can't find a hardware issue, uninstall and reinstall.....it might be worth the time. Has it ever run correctly for you?

 

[ericnmu]

Heres an update.

Fresh copy of windows with nothing but BF2, windows updates (including directx), and drivers. note, all of these have been tested and used before the problem came about.
Tried 77.72 drivers, as well as the drivers that came with BF2. No help.

Updated the mobo bios, didnt solve the problem. In game settings have never changed. Tonight I will try them at default.

No software to conflict, as it is a base OS and BF2.

EA said make sure I dont have spyware. f***k them.

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: ericnmu
EA said make sure I dont have spyware. f***k them.

Roger that.

BF2 was my last EA purchase. I won't go into a rant, but I'm just sick of their bugged, pricey software.

I don't know how or when, but there will come a time that they will pay the price for continuously screwing their customers.

 

[Spacecomber]

It does sound like your system is being overstressed in some area. Besides using MemTest to stress the memory subsystem, I would recommend also trying Prime95 to stress the processor and rthdribl to stress the video card. If running each of these (individually) for several hours is unable to to cause your system any hiccups, we're likely looking at somesort of software issue. Though this still the begs the question of whether there is some other faulty hardware (for example, drive controller) corrupting your data.

Space

 

[M0RPH]

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: ericnmu
EA said make sure I dont have spyware. f***k them.

Roger that.

BF2 was my last EA purchase. I won't go into a rant, but I'm just sick of their bugged, pricey software.

I don't know how or when, but there will come a time that they will pay the price for continuously screwing their customers.

Take it easy there, buddy. The game runs fine for the vast majority of people. It's a damn good game too, and I for one am grateful to EA for bringing it to us.

 

[M0RPH]

Are you overclocking your video card? This is exactly what I got if I try to overclock my X800 GPU too high. At 415 MHz it's fine but at 425 I will occasionally get BF2 crashes just like you describe.

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: M0RPH
Take it easy there, buddy. The game runs fine for the vast majority of people. It's a damn good game too, and I for one am grateful to EA for bringing it to us.

Are you crazy? You can't visit a single forum (that talks about the game) that isn't swamped with problems. There are so many bugs in the game that we all lost count. Miniscule things from the buggy C4 all the way to terrible netcode and lousy hit detection (you obviously haven't tried being a sniper) make what SHOULD HAVE BEEN a "damn fine game" and turned it into a $50 "lesson".

I'm not going to go through the effort of pointing out all of the problems... a million people have already done that. But this is NOT a "damn fine gamn". It's a pile of sh1t with "damn fine game DESIGN".

Every game that's released has some people with reported problems... but I haven't seen anything like this since Daikatana (though Daikatana's gameplay sucked in addition to being bugged to death).

Even mainstream industry sites have ceased biting their tongue...

 

[M0RPH]

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: M0RPH
Take it easy there, buddy. The game runs fine for the vast majority of people. It's a damn good game too, and I for one am grateful to EA for bringing it to us.

Are you crazy? You can't visit a single forum (that talks about the game) that isn't swamped with problems. There are so many bugs in the game that we all lost count. Miniscule things from the buggy C4 all the way to terrible netcode and lousy hit detection (you obviously haven't tried being a sniper) make what SHOULD HAVE BEEN a "damn fine game" and turned it into a $50 "lesson".

I'm not going to go through the effort of pointing out all of the problems... a million people have already done that. But this is NOT a "damn fine gamn". It's a pile of sh1t with "damn fine game DESIGN".

Every game that's released has some people with reported problems... but I haven't seen anything like this since Daikatana (though Daikatana's gameplay sucked in addition to being bugged to death).

Even mainstream industry sites have ceased biting their tongue...

Gee, for a game that's so bad I wonder why it's the most popular online FPS next to Counter Strike? I wonder why so many people are upgrading their computers lately just to play this game better?

While you're whining about all the little imperfections in the game, the rest of us are enjoying playing it. Bugs will be fixed, that's what patches are for and all games have them, especially online games like this one.

 

[linkgoron]

Originally posted by: M0RPH

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: M0RPH
Take it easy there, buddy. The game runs fine for the vast majority of people. It's a damn good game too, and I for one am grateful to EA for bringing it to us.

Are you crazy? You can't visit a single forum (that talks about the game) that isn't swamped with problems. There are so many bugs in the game that we all lost count. Miniscule things from the buggy C4 all the way to terrible netcode and lousy hit detection (you obviously haven't tried being a sniper) make what SHOULD HAVE BEEN a "damn fine game" and turned it into a $50 "lesson".

I'm not going to go through the effort of pointing out all of the problems... a million people have already done that. But this is NOT a "damn fine gamn". It's a pile of sh1t with "damn fine game DESIGN".

Every game that's released has some people with reported problems... but I haven't seen anything like this since Daikatana (though Daikatana's gameplay sucked in addition to being bugged to death).

Even mainstream industry sites have ceased biting their tongue...

Gee, for a game that's so bad I wonder why it's the most popular online FPS next to Counter Strike? I wonder why so many people are upgrading their computers lately just to play this game better?

While you're whining about all the little imperfections in the game, the rest of us are enjoying playing it. Bugs will be fixed, that's what patches are for and all games have them, especially online games like this one.

Hype.

 

[Stuxnet]

F--- it... I can't resist... here are SOME of the problems just off the top of my head:

1. Borked hit detection
2. Lousy netcode
3. Game crashes with no errors
4. EAX doesn't work with the RECOMMENDED/ENDORSED Audigy 2 cards
5. No widescreen support
6. First patch (need I say more?)
7. Switching from CRT to TFT is a nightmare
8. Browser woefully feature-incomplete
9. Filters dont work
10. A million other very well-documented bugs/incomplete features.

Even EA, of all entities, acknowledges the countless problems. This game was released about 6 months too soon. So there's nothing wrong with recognizing good game design, but to deny the fact that it's plagued by far more problems than most games is akin to denying the sky is blue. The problems are just simply too widespread and too well-documented to ignore.

 

[M0RPH]

Originally posted by: jbourne77
all the way to terrible netcode and lousy hit detection (you obviously haven't tried being a sniper)

By the way, the effectiveness of sniping was intentionally reduced to cut down on the numbers of annoying people who just sit in one spot the entire game and snipe. So that the game doesn't become one big snipefest. From the sounds of your complaining, I'd guess you might be one of those people.

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: M0RPH

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: M0RPH
Take it easy there, buddy. The game runs fine for the vast majority of people. It's a damn good game too, and I for one am grateful to EA for bringing it to us.

Are you crazy? You can't visit a single forum (that talks about the game) that isn't swamped with problems. There are so many bugs in the game that we all lost count. Miniscule things from the buggy C4 all the way to terrible netcode and lousy hit detection (you obviously haven't tried being a sniper) make what SHOULD HAVE BEEN a "damn fine game" and turned it into a $50 "lesson".

I'm not going to go through the effort of pointing out all of the problems... a million people have already done that. But this is NOT a "damn fine gamn". It's a pile of sh1t with "damn fine game DESIGN".

Every game that's released has some people with reported problems... but I haven't seen anything like this since Daikatana (though Daikatana's gameplay sucked in addition to being bugged to death).

Even mainstream industry sites have ceased biting their tongue...

Gee, for a game that's so bad I wonder why it's the most popular online FPS next to Counter Strike? I wonder why so many people are upgrading their computers lately just to play this game better?

While you're whining about all the little imperfections in the game, the rest of us are enjoying playing it. Bugs will be fixed, that's what patches are for and all games have them, especially online games like this one.

Get off EA's nuts and open your eyes.

Speaking of Counter-Strike: I haven't had one single problem. The same goes for UT2004, Splinter Cell, or a slew of other games. BF2 is the only one I've had problems with, and actually, my problems were relatively minor to the ones a lot of other people are experiencing. You just need to learn to look past your own nose and recognize that how YOU experience things is not necessarily absolute and the benchmark by which everyone else's experience MUST be measured.

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: M0RPH

Originally posted by: jbourne77
all the way to terrible netcode and lousy hit detection (you obviously haven't tried being a sniper)

By the way, the effectiveness of sniping was intentionally reduced to cut down on the numbers of annoying people who just sit in one spot the entire game and snipe.

Look, having the game ignore a shot between the eyes is not "cutting down effectiveness"... it's called a FLAW.

Originally posted by: M0RPH

Originally posted by: jbourne77
all the way to terrible netcode and lousy hit detection (you obviously haven't tried being a sniper)

So that the game doesn't become one big snipefest. From the sounds of your complaining, I'd guess you might be one of those people.

Why I play the game or what class I choose is my business... Regardless, when I shoot you in the face I expect you to DIE.

I know I know... I'm just being "picky".

Idiot.

 

[Stuxnet]

I think you and I are finished, Morph. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about and you'd just prefer that everyone stop talking about all the problems so your own personal fun isn't infringed upon.

Again, nevermind how well-documented these problems are, even by EA themselves.

Just keep your head in the sand...

 

[M0RPH]

Originally posted by: jbourne77
F--- it... I can't resist... here are SOME of the problems just off the top of my head:

1. Borked hit detection

Are you just mad because you can't be the uber sniper? Is that what this complaint is about?

2. Lousy netcode

Much improved over the previous Battlefield games, actually.

3. Game crashes with no errors

Some of these may be due to game bugs, but the majority of these crashes reported by people are caused by something in their system, not the game.

4. EAX doesn't work with the RECOMMENDED/ENDORSED Audigy 2 cards

I don't know about this. It works fine with my Audigy1.

5. No widescreen support

This is a missing feature, not a bug.

6. First patch (need I say more?)

Of course there was a patch. There are bugs and they need to be fixed. There will be more patches. It's a natural part of game development. Not just for this game, for any other online game.

7. Switching from CRT to TFT is a nightmare
8. Browser woefully feature-incomplete

The browser has never been that great. Get over it. It still does its job. If you want a more full-features one, get ASE or something.

9. Filters dont work
10. A million other very well-documented bugs/incomplete features.

Exaggerating a little, aren't you?

Even EA, of all entities, acknowledges the countless problems. This game was released about 6 months too soon. So there's nothing wrong with recognizing good game design, but to deny the fact that it's plagued by far more problems than most games is akin to denying the sky is blue. The problems are just simply too widespread and too well-documented to ignore.

It's an ambitious game. Considering the scope of the game, I think they've done a decent job. It's a significant improvemet over BFV and despite its flaws, it's an extremely fun, addicting game and there's no better game of its kind out there. And don't say CS, because that's nothing like BF2 with huge maps, vehicles and large scale warfare.