you know what makes me angry?

[Anarchist420]

is people who hold u.s.g. debt and collect interest from the tax payer while allowing the u.s.g to increase its power.

the public debt should be repudiated so that those people will realize that nothing in life is guaranteed and for them to lose out for funding the u.s.g's excessive borrowing.

those who hold govt bonds are being totally unproductive because they could be landlords or oilmen where people can actually get what they want.

and i hate the Conservatives like neal boortz with a fucking passion for calling out on people for taking welfare and saying they're lazy and worthless and all that other bullshit, yet they dont call out the people who make it possible--the people who make money off of making it possible. they dont call out the big inefficient grocery stores that take WIC and food stamps. they dont call out the wasteful inefficient medical practices and hospitals that take medicare and medicaid. they dont call out the lawyers who represent patent trolls and wasteful Conservative institutions like intel and microsoft that wouldnt be as big in a free society. they dont call out the piece of shit big pharma companies (not all of them suck, the biggest patent trolling ones do). they dont call out the vaccine makers for lobbying dick perry to force all teenage girls to take shit about half of them dont even need and for being wasteful and inefficient by not trying to develop safe and painless cures with all the money they make with all of these worthless me too vaccines and they dont even research before indiscriminately wasting money on advertising it to all.

 

[Anarchist420]

sorry if that was intense. i dont want to give anyone a myocardial infarction.

 

[Jaepheth]

Judging by the uptick in the vitriol today; I'm going to say Christmas makes you angry.

 

[IronWing]

Poptarts make me mad. They are sweet and they don't pop.

 

[Karl Agathon]

General Zod made me angry because of all the damage he caused in Metropolis.

 

[piasabird]

I cant stand people who want to be compassionate but will not spend their own money to solve the problem. How much money did you donate to help solve world Hunger? I also hate paying people in government money to manage welfare. Churches dont generally charge anything to manage their public trust. We need more local control of money. Why pay the government to do what locals do best for free with volunteers?

 

[shadow9d9]

Yes, focus on welfare for the poor, but not corporate welfare. Logical, especially for someone that still lives with their parents and is the very definition of ON WELFARE.

 

[Soundmanred]

Judging by the uptick in the vitriol today; I'm going to say Christmas makes you angry.

When your parents hate you, every day is Christmas.
Angry, angry Christmas.

 

[Specop 007]

Yes, focus on welfare for the poor, but not corporate welfare. Logical, especially for someone that still lives with their parents and is the very definition of ON WELFARE.

Hell of a stretch to equate raising a child to welfare.

 

[IGBT]

can I have a few billion dollars to start up a pseudo solar panel company and as soon as I get the money go out of business?? (solyndra scam)

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/277512/solyndra-fraud-andrew-c-mccarthy

 

[compuwiz1]

Yes, focus on welfare for the poor, but not corporate welfare. Logical, especially for someone that still lives with their parents and is the very definition of ON WELFARE.

I agree. Focus on why we should not be throwing a blanket of welfare on the poor. Let's spend that money on finding who is educatable and employable. Once identified, provide them with job skill education and teach them that sitting on the porch drinking a 40 on the tax payer ticket is no way to go through life. In other words, make welfare a temporary aid, while causing people to advance themselves, not a habit they can consider a career. Jay Van Andel of Amway said it best. "Being poor is something many people do."

 

[Sulaco]

Hell of a stretch to equate raising a child to welfare.

If his reference is to the OP, he is clearly not a child anymore (early 20's?) yet still lives with his parents.
He's not talking about raising children, he's talking about mooching.

 

[BoomerD]

Topic Title: you know what makes me angry?

Just about everything...especially the things you don't understand. (which is just about everything.)

If his reference is to the OP, he is clearly not a child anymore (early 20's?) yet still lives with his parents.
He's not talking about raising children, he's talking about mooching.

Not only that, but a while back he had a thread bitching because he was being forced (?) to get SSDI for himself. (parents and doctors?)

 

[dawp]

ya know what makes me mad? Anarchist420 threads






































actually no, they don't make me mad, I find them highly entertaining.

 

[Anarchist420]

Not only that, but a while back he had a thread bitching because he was being forced (?) to get SSDI for himself. (parents and doctors?)

no one was forcing me to get ss. my psychiatrist wanted me to and i was worried at the time because i thought i could be signed up for it by anyone, but that wasn't right and im not going to apply.

i need to call my oldest brother's friend and see if he has a min wage job for me... i've been meaning to do that for two or three months now but i still havent gotten around to it and im not really sure why.

 

[Moonbeam]

no one was forcing me to get ss. my psychiatrist wanted me to and i was worried at the time because i thought i could be signed up for it by anyone, but that wasn't right and im not going to apply.

i need to call my oldest brother's friend and see if he has a min wage job for me... i've been meaning to do that for two or three months now but i still havent gotten around to it and im not really sure why.

Perhaps you are not what you think, that you mind lives in a palatial dream while your actual being is unattended. I suggested before that perhaps the reason you do not want social security is not because you hate the state but because you feel too worthless to admit to dependence. There is nothing wrong with being dependent. We all are in one way or another. You must find some other way to feel worthwhile than being like Bill Gates.

Maybe you could volunteer at some charitable organization for free. If you have a condition that makes it impossible to even do that you may simply have to face the fact that you will be dependent on the state.

 

[kia75]

no one was forcing me to get ss. my psychiatrist wanted me to and i was worried at the time because i thought i could be signed up for it by anyone, but that wasn't right and im not going to apply.

i need to call my oldest brother's friend and see if he has a min wage job for me... i've been meaning to do that for two or three months now but i still havent gotten around to it and im not really sure why.

Because working to put food on the table, shelter over your head, and clothes on your back is hard on a minimum wage job. It's much easier to complain about the big bad ol' government keeping you down, despite the fact that not everybody has parents willing to let someone mooch off them or friends willing to give them jobs.

 

[BoomerD]

no one was forcing me to get ss. my psychiatrist wanted me to and i was worried at the time because i thought i could be signed up for it by anyone, but that wasn't right and im not going to apply.

i need to call my oldest brother's friend and see if he has a min wage job for me... i've been meaning to do that for two or three months now but i still havent gotten around to it and im not really sure why.

OK, I just remember the early part of that thread when you thought you were being forced to apply...or it was being done for you.

If you don't have a source of income...how do you support yourself? Since you hate welfare and similar programs so much, and since you're an adult of majority, you obviously refuse to sponge off your parents...right?

 

[Specop 007]

If his reference is to the OP, he is clearly not a child anymore (early 20's?) yet still lives with his parents.
He's not talking about raising children, he's talking about mooching.

Thats a agreement entered into freely involving only him and his parents. Again, to equate that to welfare is one hell of a stretch. You see, in a welfare agreement the government and a lazy person freely enter into an agreement for the lazy person to get some third parties money for free. The third party has no say in that whatsoever and in fact has their money taken through threat of force, very much similar to outright theft.

 

[Anarchist420]

Maybe you could volunteer at some charitable organization for free.

i have and still do every once and a while you dipshit.

If you have a condition that makes it impossible to even do that you may simply have to face the fact that you will be dependent on the state.

the same State that would be keeping me from using secure and relatively painless methods to commit suicide (or would at least make it a chore for me to access). i would choose a safe relatively painless death if it came between taking that and welfare, but the State you worship so much isnt going to let me commit suicide how i would want to... you're nothing but an authoritarian voting for force to be used against innocent people.

and you dont seem to understand that if there were no State i would either be dead, or i would inherit a lot more and my parents still would've been able to give to poor people instead of being forced to give it to some violent bureaucrat who goes around raping innocent people and gets away with it. my medicines would've been cheaper (no patents), my dad's office's medical equipment would've been cheaper (no patents and no regs), my parents would never have had to pay interest, my insurance would've been cheaper since it would've actually been insurance (i.e., to be used only for catastrophic events... homeowners' insurance doesnt cover every single upgrade to your house and car insurance doesnt cover your gas bill at all, it doesnt cover any oil changes, it doesnt cover ever tire change), my parents wouldnt have to pay for me to exercise my natural right of buying medications, my parents wouldnt have to pay as much for the internet because there would be no legislation that cartelizes ISPs in the name of "national security" by requiring them to keep records, the State wouldnt have costed my parents money through fines and lawyers fees when my older brother got busted for drugs and alcohol possession all those years ago (simply because the State wants control, as they dont give a damn about protection)... i know i am not going to change anyone, but i have just a sliver of hope that you'll be prompted by new information to at least understand that the State jacks prices up and depletes individual savings and carries it out through probably millions of different methods.

finally, it would be nice if you could just get over the fact that i am not ever going to worship the State (or at least quit harassing me about it). even if i go on welfare, i would rather be dead than take some shitty crumbs.

 

[Anarchist420]

Thats a agreement entered into freely involving only him and his parents. Again, to equate that to welfare is one hell of a stretch. You see, in a welfare agreement the government and a lazy person freely enter into an agreement for the lazy person to get some third parties money for free. The third party has no say in that whatsoever and in fact has their money taken through threat of force, very much similar to outright theft.

+1.

Because working to put food on the table, shelter over your head, and clothes on your back is hard on a minimum wage job. It's much easier to complain about the big bad ol' government keeping you down, despite the fact that not everybody has parents willing to let someone mooch off them or friends willing to give them jobs.

the govt would have tax a lot more and i still wouldnt have a quality of life that i deemed satisfactory. then quality of life goes down for all, not only because productive people would not only be taxed to pay for it, but also because i could've done that much worth of stuff people wanted and voluntarily agreed to... that's why private product remaining (PPR) is only about half of what GDP officially is.

and then there is a limit to how much the govt taxes anyway, because productive people are smarter and more numerous than murderous govt bureaucrats... u.s.g. revenues haven't exceeded 21% of GDP nor been less than 15% of GDP at any time after WWII.

if that was doubled to say 36%, then there would be even more limitation of choice, fewer would contribute to the poor from their own hearts, fewer would contribute to increasing the quality of life from their own hearts, few inventions have come from private individuals in Europe since wwii ended, fewer good inventions have come directly from the State throughout history than from people not working for the State, most people would have to share a lot more because there wouldnt be enough to go around for enough people, the productive middle class would have to pay even more in taxes, people would be in debt even more for things the State didnt provide because they wouldnt be allowed to save much, the percentage of taxes paid by the wealthy would be less, etc., etc. the govt would have to spend money on a monstrous labor bureaucracy trying to keep enough people employed to feed itself, there would have to be more forced loans of paper that cant have intrinsic value, taxes would have to be consumed by an education system that would be compulsory for all even though some people would be more productive not going formal education, etc, etc.

OK, I just remember the early part of that thread when you thought you were being forced to apply...or it was being done for you. If you don't have a source of income...how do you support yourself? Since you hate welfare and similar programs so much, and since you're an adult of majority, you obviously refuse to sponge off your parents...right?

um, see specop's post.

 

[Tormac]

Just to make sure that I understand your position, you’re saying that if my Grandmother puts her retirement money in US bonds, because they are safe and yield a sure return on her investment, you want the government to say nope we’re not going to give you any return, or your money back, you’re out of luck?
The US government bonds yield very little compared to the market, on average, but many people put their investments there because they are seen as very safe. These may be grandmothers, they may be big corporations, they may be Americans, and they may be Chinese. From a trust stand point I do not think it matters who these investors are. Who is going to invest in these bonds if they are no longer seen as safe investments? It seems to me that the result of what you are suggesting is that either the government will not be able to run because a lack of cash or the government will have to start paying our significantly larger amounts of interest, because of a loss of trust on the part of investors.
How is the US defaulting on its debt going to help our government, or us as citizens?

 

[BoberFett]

Poptarts make me mad. They are sweet and they don't pop.

:biggrin:

 

[kia75]

+1.


the govt would have tax a lot more and i still wouldnt have a quality of life that i deemed satisfactory.

You know what most people do when they have a quality of life they deem unsatisfactory. THEY GET JOBS AND IMPROVE THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE! They don't mooch off their parents and then decry about how much more they could mooch off their parents if their parents didn't pay taxes. Yeah, it's true, if your parents stopped paying their mortgage, their car payment, stopped buying food and clothing for themselves and they stopped paying taxes then they could certainly spend more money on you. Well, at least until their car gets repossessed or breaks down, then they wouldn't be able to give you gobs and gobs of money.

then quality of life goes down for all, not only because productive people would not only be taxed to pay for it, but also because i could've done that much worth of stuff people wanted and voluntarily agreed to... that's why private product remaining (PPR) is only about half of what GDP officially is.

Then why don't you do it? Why don't you get a job and become a millionaire or something? Oh yeah, the government is keeping you down. If it weren't for that pesky government providing police protection, and roads and schools and doctors and money to you, you'd be the millionist millionaire that every millioned a million dollars.

If you can't succeed with all the benefits you have right now (free schooling, roads to get you where you need to go, parents to mooch off of, friends that can afford to give you a job, electricity, clean drinking water, etc), why do you think you'd be able to succeed without those things? Better yet, why don't you try it! Somalia doesn't have high taxes or government intrusion. Go there and make your million dollars!

 

[shadow9d9]

no one was forcing me to get ss. my psychiatrist wanted me to and i was worried at the time because i thought i could be signed up for it by anyone, but that wasn't right and im not going to apply.

i need to call my oldest brother's friend and see if he has a min wage job for me... i've been meaning to do that for two or three months now but i still havent gotten around to it and im not really sure why.

I know why... it is because you are lazy, angry, and mentally disturbed person.