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ThinClient

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Please show me this post and I will concede. I remember simply saying I was ignoring you (not reading or responding to you)

You don't need to add a user to the ignore list to ignore them.

and now you backpedal to cover your dishonest tracks
 
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You're damn right I feel threatened, with abortion doctors being slaughtered, suicide vest wearing motherfuckers blowing people up thinking that they're doing something righteous -that they're god commands them to do it, that the genitals of kids are being mutilated because they think their god commands them to do it, the list is huge.

The fate of the planet, of our species, hangs in the balance between willful ignorance in bronze age myths and educated enlightenment.
The fate of our planet and species hangs in the balance? Well then, if that's the case, you definitely have your work cut out for you...good luck enlightening over 6,000,000,000 people. How many have you converted so far?
 

ThinClient

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The fate of our planet and species hangs in the balance? Well then, if that's the case, you definitely have your work cut out for you...good luck enlightening over 6,000,000,000 people. How many have you converted so far?

Impossible to count the number who, like me, have read forum posts and books based on suggestions between people who had no idea I was watching.
 

ThinClient

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You said I "claimed to put you on my ignore list" I don't think I made a claim to do that. If you can show me this, I would much appreciate it.

backpedal backpedal backpedal your story gently down the streeeeam

merrily merrily merrily merrily life is but a dream
 
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Impossible to count the number who, like me, have read forum posts and books based on suggestions between people who had no idea I was watching.
It must give you tremendous satisifaction enlightening the ignorant. I wish I could say the same...but those I find to be exceptionally ignorant typically don't have a clue as to what I'm talking about.
 

shadow9d9

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Yes, we need more "compromise!" More people will believe in the theory of gravity if we say god uses gravity to hold people to the earth!
 

Retro Rob

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The fate of our planet and species hangs in the balance? Well then, if that's the case, you definitely have your work cut out for you...good luck enlightening over 6,000,000,000 people. How many have you converted so far?

Gotta keep up the proselytizing, because they seem to be losing.

Numbers speak loudly...all this screaming about how much evidence is on their side, yet about half the people in the country are creationists.

They've chased people from science, and have done much more harm than good to the real evidence that actually lies in real science.
 

ThinClient

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It must give you tremendous satisifaction enlightening the ignorant. I wish I could say the same...but those I find to be exceptionally ignorant typically don't have a clue as to what I'm talking about.

Well, either you're insinuating that I'm exceptionally ignorant :awe: (which I would find funny because you did so in a subtle way), or you're making a statement to which I would reply something about how if you can't explain it to a 6 year old that you may not understand all of it, yourself.

I know I fall into the latter category on many things, but that's partly why I participate in threads like these: to learn and to refine my techniques.
 

ThinClient

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Gotta keep up the proselytizing, because they seem to be losing.

Actually, theism in this country is declining. You'd know that if you didn't reject everything that doesn't support your baseless religious conclusion.

Numbers speak loudly...all this screaming about how much evidence is on their side, yet about half the people in the country are creationists.

People reject what they don't understand and they don't like feeling stupid because they're gripped by pride. You're a perfect example in these evolution threads. You are an absolutely flawless example. Even in the face of undeniable objective physical evidence, you refuse to believe it. When someone educates you on the matter, you nod your head and smile but the very next thread, there you are pulling the same shit over and over again. It's that attitude that is responsible for most of the country (and the world) being religious. Well, that, and people in general are ignorant and they love their ignorance.

They've chased people from science, and have done much more harm than good to the real evidence that actually lies in real science.

At least we have evidence, unlike your entire religious camp.
 

Retro Rob

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Actually, theism in this country is declining. You'd know that if you didn't reject everything that doesn't support your baseless religious conclusion.

Dang, I thought you took a fact-based head beating yesterday, but I'll beat you over the head for completeness sake:


Teens are losing their religion, not their theism. Source:



http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/02/17/report.millennials.faith/

Just like with evolution, people are finding their own middle ground between two extremes. Youth don't like the hate message of the religions of their parents, but they cling to ideas like heaven, miracles and prayer. Why?

Because it is baked into us, or at least baked into our culture.

If the churches can recraft a more palatable message those people might fall back into religions. 68 percent of the millennials claim to never doubt the existence of God, that means the majority of the young are still theists, just not practicing ones.

Also from the article:

"Church is difficult because young people today want to engage actively," Hill said. "They just want to experience God."

More:

45 percent of young Americans report praying daily, about the same proportion who said they did in the 1980s and '90s.

That's gotta hurt. No, theism isn't dying, while religion is. I think you need to actually learn what the difference is...they are not the same, ok?
 

poofyhairguy

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Yes, we need more "compromise!" More people will believe in the theory of gravity if we say god uses gravity to hold people to the earth!

You joke, but people don't protest gravity. That is a settled issue.

Now, the terrible handling of the evolution message has made the masses so anti-science that we are going BACKWARDS for what science is offensive, but gravity isn't on the list yet.

How the moon shines is though:

http://www.thinkatheist.com/profiles/blogs/bill-nye-bood-in-texas-for

That is one reason why you compromise- so we can bury the debate on evolution and not allow the anti-science backlash that comes from that issue to unwind our scientific progress.

The other reason is because the path to evolution without divine intervention is the gateway drug of "God made evolution." The stats prove it.
 
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ThinClient

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yeah, CNN isn't bias or anything. They're certainly not pandering to their religious-majority costituensy. No, sir! LOL

:awe:

Polling the public opinion and extrapolating it throughout the entire country isn't facts. It's not real data. It's a guess (which is still better than the ah heck-all you have to support your theistic claims).

You're still losing. You're still bested in these threads every single day. You still come back with the same tired arguments every new thread and the cycle repeats.
 

Retro Rob

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You joke, but people don't protest gravity. That is a settled issue.

Now, the terrible handling of the evolution message has made the masses so anti-science that we are going BACKWARDS for what science in offensive, but gravity isn't on the list yet.

How the moon shines is though:

http://www.thinkatheist.com/profiles/blogs/bill-nye-bood-in-texas-for

That is one reason why you compromise- so we can bury the debate on evolution and not allow the anti-science backlash that comes from that issue unwind our scientific progress.

The other reason is because the path to evolution without divine intervention is the gateway drug of "God made evolution." The stats prove it.

I personally don't see how Nye is at fault, period.
 

Retro Rob

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yeah, CNN isn't bias or anything. They're certainly not pandering to their religious-majority costituensy. No, sir! LOL

:awe:

Polling the public opinion and extrapolating it throughout the entire country isn't facts. It's not real data. It's a guess (which is still better than the ah heck-all you have to support your theistic claims).

You're still losing. You're still bested in these threads every single day. You still come back with the same tired arguments every new thread and the cycle repeats.

You're more than welcome to bring some counter-evidence from a less biased source, then.
 

ThinClient

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You're more than welcome to bring some counter-evidence from a less biased source, then.

Why? You've already proven time and time again that you'll reject any objective peer-reviewed evidence brought to you that doesn't support your own agenda. Why should I make the effort?
 

JD50

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How in the world can someone brag about almost half of the population denying the theory of evolution? It's really not something to be proud of, it's actually quite embarrassing. It certainly points to how harmful it is to effectively brainwash children from such a young age.
 

JD50

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BTW, there's really no point in asking Rob to read a book or educate himself further, he's already admitted that he will never change his mind because people on the Internet are mean.
 

ThinClient

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How in the world can someone brag about almost half of the population denying the theory of evolution? It's really not something to be proud of, it's actually quite embarrassing. It certainly points to how harmful it is to effectively brainwash children from such a young age.

Aye, this is the crux of it all (see what I did there).

If religion were to be hidden from children until they're adults when they can make their own decision without being brainwashed as children, I doubt religion would last long at all.
 

Retro Rob

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Why? You've already proven time and time again that you'll reject any objective peer-reviewed evidence brought to you that doesn't support your own agenda. Why should I make the effort?

Here's a little more for you:

Despite the many changes that have rippled through American society over the last 6 ½ decades, belief in God as measured in this direct way has remained high and relatively stable. Gallup initially used this question wording in November 1944, when 96% said "yes." That percentage dropped to 94% in 1947, but increased to 98% in several Gallup surveys conducted in the 1950s and 1960s. Gallup stopped using this question format in the 1960s, before including it again in Gallup's May 5-8 survey this year.'

In 1976, Gallup began using a slightly different question format to measure belief in a deity -- "Do you believe in God or a universal spirit?" -- and found that 94% of Americans agreed. That percentage stayed fairly steady through 1994, and is at 91% in the May 2011 survey.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/147887/americans-continue-believe-god.aspx

I'm sure you can find information countering mine. And if your sole purpose is to "educate" and convert others, why no bring something for the benefit of the maybe hundreds of posters who have/will visit this thread?

..oh I forgot, they're all ignorant too...too ignorant for you to back anything you say with facts.

Remember, this is the DC...you are held to a higher standard of discourse here.
 

JD50

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Par for the course. Theists have absolutely no real evidence that god exists, so once again a thread devolves into arguing meaningless things such as the definition of Atheism, what a rock does or does not believe, how many people are religious, how many people "believe" in evolution, the "tone" of people on the Internet, etc...
 
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Well, either you're insinuating that I'm exceptionally ignorant :awe: (which I would find funny because you did so in a subtle way), or you're making a statement to which I would reply something about how if you can't explain it to a 6 year old that you may not understand all of it, yourself.

I know I fall into the latter category on many things, but that's partly why I participate in threads like these: to learn and to refine my techniques.
I'm glad to see you have a good sense of humor.
 

JD50

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Who is bragging?

Gotta keep up the proselytizing, because they seem to be losing.

Numbers speak loudly...all this screaming about how much evidence is on their side, yet about half the people in the country are creationists.

They've chased people from science, and have done much more harm than good to the real evidence that actually lies in real science.

Also, it's absolutely absurd to insinuate that Atheists are the reason that creationists deny science.
 
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