You think it's so easy to understand your posts?Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: Howard
Winner of what? Aesthetics?Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Originally posted by: Skott
I like the 9500 AT on my Conroe chip. Core temps is 35C Idle and 47C under load. I think the 9500 is definetely one of the best if not the best hsf you can get. It'll depend on your chip. mobo, and case though. Use AS5 too to help keep temps down.
I just have one thing to say... NO WAY! The Scythe Infinity, Tuniq Tower, and Thermalright Ultra-120 all blow the 9500 away. There is no comparison at all.
based on what? I have read reviews and I will tell you one thing.....
Define being blown away? 1 degree or 2 degrees celcius?? Muahahaaa
I just recieved my Ultra- 120 and installed it on my gaming rigg.....soon to be a Untel Core Duo...
I will tell you one thing...none of the heatsink even hold a candle to the 9500 when cranked down to 7 or 5 volts. Even on SPCR they said Zalman was the clear winner.
EDIT: So it seems that at 12V it does outperform all the units they tested at the time of the review of the 9500. However,
At the tested level of airflow, the Zalman 9500 is far too loud for use in a conventional case.
Again Howard you did not read or comprehend my post which is nothing new for you I guess...what did I say.....
According to SPCR, with the Ninja running a Nexus 120mm at 12V and the 9500 at 5V (same level of noise, roughly) the Ninja is 4 degrees cooler.yet as I stated throttled down to 7 or 5 volts even SPCR says it is a very good heatsink.
Oh by the way-- Hello Howard!!
Wrong, wrong, wrong.none of the heatsink even hold a candle to the 9500 when cranked down to 7 or 5 volts.
Originally posted by: Baked
Thermalright Ultra-120 works for me. Have a couple 120mm fans already, so getting the Ultra-120 was only natural. Zalman 9500 was simply too expensive. I set fan speed to auto in the BIOS and noticed the Yate Loon fan I have on the Ultra-120's not at full speed. Cools better than the Artic Cooling Freezer Pro 7, so that's good enough for me. I also like the option of changing between 120mm fans whenever I like.
Only? The bel scale is logarithmic, you know.Originally posted by: Baked
Noise is no concern? Then that Panaflo fan is weak sauce. You should've bought this. 220.29 CFM @ only 59.0 dBA.
Originally posted by: Howard
You think it's so easy to understand your posts?Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: Howard
Winner of what? Aesthetics?Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Originally posted by: Skott
I like the 9500 AT on my Conroe chip. Core temps is 35C Idle and 47C under load. I think the 9500 is definetely one of the best if not the best hsf you can get. It'll depend on your chip. mobo, and case though. Use AS5 too to help keep temps down.
I just have one thing to say... NO WAY! The Scythe Infinity, Tuniq Tower, and Thermalright Ultra-120 all blow the 9500 away. There is no comparison at all.
based on what? I have read reviews and I will tell you one thing.....
Define being blown away? 1 degree or 2 degrees celcius?? Muahahaaa
I just recieved my Ultra- 120 and installed it on my gaming rigg.....soon to be a Untel Core Duo...
I will tell you one thing...none of the heatsink even hold a candle to the 9500 when cranked down to 7 or 5 volts. Even on SPCR they said Zalman was the clear winner.
EDIT: So it seems that at 12V it does outperform all the units they tested at the time of the review of the 9500. However,
At the tested level of airflow, the Zalman 9500 is far too loud for use in a conventional case.
Again Howard you did not read or comprehend my post which is nothing new for you I guess...what did I say.....
According to SPCR, with the Ninja running a Nexus 120mm at 12V and the 9500 at 5V (same level of noise, roughly) the Ninja is 4 degrees cooler.yet as I stated throttled down to 7 or 5 volts even SPCR says it is a very good heatsink.
Oh by the way-- Hello Howard!!
I fail to see how "very good" is "the winner".
Wrong, wrong, wrong.none of the heatsink even hold a candle to the 9500 when cranked down to 7 or 5 volts.
Originally posted by: Howard
Winner of what? Aesthetics?Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Originally posted by: Skott
I like the 9500 AT on my Conroe chip. Core temps is 35C Idle and 47C under load. I think the 9500 is definetely one of the best if not the best hsf you can get. It'll depend on your chip. mobo, and case though. Use AS5 too to help keep temps down.
I just have one thing to say... NO WAY! The Scythe Infinity, Tuniq Tower, and Thermalright Ultra-120 all blow the 9500 away. There is no comparison at all.
based on what? I have read reviews and I will tell you one thing.....
Define being blown away? 1 degree or 2 degrees celcius?? Muahahaaa
I just recieved my Ultra- 120 and installed it on my gaming rigg.....soon to be a Untel Core Duo...
I will tell you one thing...none of the heatsink even hold a candle to the 9500 when cranked down to 7 or 5 volts. Even on SPCR they said Zalman was the clear winner.
EDIT: So it seems that at 12V it does outperform all the units they tested at the time of the review of the 9500. However,
At the tested level of airflow, the Zalman 9500 is far too loud for use in a conventional case.
Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: Howard
Winner of what? Aesthetics?Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Originally posted by: Skott
I like the 9500 AT on my Conroe chip. Core temps is 35C Idle and 47C under load. I think the 9500 is definetely one of the best if not the best hsf you can get. It'll depend on your chip. mobo, and case though. Use AS5 too to help keep temps down.
I just have one thing to say... NO WAY! The Scythe Infinity, Tuniq Tower, and Thermalright Ultra-120 all blow the 9500 away. There is no comparison at all.
based on what? I have read reviews and I will tell you one thing.....
Define being blown away? 1 degree or 2 degrees celcius?? Muahahaaa
I just recieved my Ultra- 120 and installed it on my gaming rigg.....soon to be a Untel Core Duo...
I will tell you one thing...none of the heatsink even hold a candle to the 9500 when cranked down to 7 or 5 volts. Even on SPCR they said Zalman was the clear winner.
EDIT: So it seems that at 12V it does outperform all the units they tested at the time of the review of the 9500. However,
At the tested level of airflow, the Zalman 9500 is far too loud for use in a conventional case.
Again Howard you dod not read or comprehend my post which is nothing new for you I guess...what did i say.....
did i say at full throttle????
I believe I said -- will tell you one thing...none of the heatsink even hold a candle to the 9500 when cranked down to 7 or 5 volts. Even on SPCR they said Zalman was the clear winner.
Please correct me if I am wrong?
Did I say 12 volts nope.....again you put words into my mouth....
As I stated in my post -- As is its a 3.2 EE over clocked to 3.8......
Not one degree difference in the temps betwen the 9500 and the Ultra.
There is no way to proclaim the best heatsink for any given computer there are so many variables it just cannot be done.
I know people who are using the Arctic Frezer Pro who are getting better temps with that cooler than the Scythe Ninja which they also own...
So far the zalman 9500 among the coolers that I have is 1 degree celcius difference in all the heatsink I have....
To and including the XP-120 and the XP90copper and the Ultra-120 and the Scythe Ninja and the Zalman 9500 and the Tuniq Tower...none of the other come close to these temps that I have from all these heatsink there is worse case scenario 2 degrees celciius difference in various heatsinks.
You complain about noise levels well there are many people love the Zlaman 9500 and run it all full throttle who have no issues with noise....
I for one also have no issues with noise...
There are websites that have reviewed the Zalman 9500 who have stated there is no appreciable difference betwen running the 9500 at full throttle and other heatsinks.
Yet we both knpw that since it has a 80mm fan it most likely to some degree is louder.
yet as I stated throttled down to 7 or 5 volts even SPCR says it is a very good heatsink.
Oh by the way-- Hello Howard!!
Actually it's a 92mm fan not 80mm and if you read any reviews that show the Infinity, Ultra-120 or the Tuniq Tower in a controlled test they are clearly superior. Thing of it is, I've never seen a CNPS9500 compared to these. Why do you think that is? It's simply because the AC Freezer, Big Typhoon, and 9500 are not all that high end. The Infinity, Tuniq Tower, Ultra-120 and even the Noctura are made for high end cooling and not the average joe who just wants to overclock for the first time. These coolers are the best you can get without delving into water or something more extreme yet.
Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Originally posted by: Baked
Thermalright Ultra-120 works for me. Have a couple 120mm fans already, so getting the Ultra-120 was only natural. Zalman 9500 was simply too expensive. I set fan speed to auto in the BIOS and noticed the Yate Loon fan I have on the Ultra-120's not at full speed. Cools better than the Artic Cooling Freezer Pro 7, so that's good enough for me. I also like the option of changing between 120mm fans whenever I like.
I have an Ultra-120 with a Panaflow H1BX on order. 103cfm :Q
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Originally posted by: Baked
Thermalright Ultra-120 works for me. Have a couple 120mm fans already, so getting the Ultra-120 was only natural. Zalman 9500 was simply too expensive. I set fan speed to auto in the BIOS and noticed the Yate Loon fan I have on the Ultra-120's not at full speed. Cools better than the Artic Cooling Freezer Pro 7, so that's good enough for me. I also like the option of changing between 120mm fans whenever I like.
I have an Ultra-120 with a Panaflow H1BX on order. 103cfm :Q
Im using coolermaters fans that top out ay 43cfm.
I had other fans that topped out at over 100cfm.
the problem with airflow is that the higher the cfm there starts to be diminishing returns.
I got no lower temperatures with a fan ratd at 100cfm than a fan ratd at 40cfm.
In fact the diminishing returns start approximately at betwen 40-55cfm.
Plus there is moway your fan is going to quieter at 100cfm than what i am running at 42 cfm.
Also there is noway your fan is going to be any quieter running at 100cfm that a Zalman 9500 running all out...that just will not happen.
I still seriously doubt you own a 9500 but thats OK!! On the internet you can say anything you want...lol
Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Originally posted by: Baked
Thermalright Ultra-120 works for me. Have a couple 120mm fans already, so getting the Ultra-120 was only natural. Zalman 9500 was simply too expensive. I set fan speed to auto in the BIOS and noticed the Yate Loon fan I have on the Ultra-120's not at full speed. Cools better than the Artic Cooling Freezer Pro 7, so that's good enough for me. I also like the option of changing between 120mm fans whenever I like.
I have an Ultra-120 with a Panaflow H1BX on order. 103cfm :Q
Im using coolermaters fans that top out ay 43cfm.
I had other fans that topped out at over 100cfm.
the problem with airflow is that the higher the cfm there starts to be diminishing returns.
I got no lower temperatures with a fan ratd at 100cfm than a fan ratd at 40cfm.
In fact the diminishing returns start approximately at betwen 40-55cfm.
Plus there is moway your fan is going to quieter at 100cfm than what i am running at 42 cfm.
Also there is noway your fan is going to be any quieter running at 100cfm that a Zalman 9500 running all out...that just will not happen.
I still seriously doubt you own a 9500 but thats OK!! On the internet you can say anything you want...lol
Look you're just digging yourself into a hole here. If you bother to read what people say instead of just assuming all the time you'd see that I don't care about noise, that the Ultra-120 and other tower coolers are much better with high cfm than other heatsinks. If you want a friggen picture of my CNPS9500 I can provide it although you won't care and probably say it's not my system :roll:
Look you're just digging yourself into a hole here. If you bother to read what people say instead of just assuming all the time you'd see that I don't care about noise, that the Ultra-120 and other tower coolers are much better with high cfm than other heatsinks. If you want a friggen picture of my CNPS9500 I can provide it although you won't care and probably say it's not my system
OK, let's say the 9500 is running at 7V and so is the Nexus 120mm on the Scythe Ninja. According to SPCR, the temp rise for the 9500 (on their platform) is 16 degrees. The temp rise for the Ninja is 18 degrees.Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: Howard
You think it's so easy to understand your posts?Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: Howard
Winner of what? Aesthetics?Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Originally posted by: Skott
I like the 9500 AT on my Conroe chip. Core temps is 35C Idle and 47C under load. I think the 9500 is definetely one of the best if not the best hsf you can get. It'll depend on your chip. mobo, and case though. Use AS5 too to help keep temps down.
I just have one thing to say... NO WAY! The Scythe Infinity, Tuniq Tower, and Thermalright Ultra-120 all blow the 9500 away. There is no comparison at all.
based on what? I have read reviews and I will tell you one thing.....
Define being blown away? 1 degree or 2 degrees celcius?? Muahahaaa
I just recieved my Ultra- 120 and installed it on my gaming rigg.....soon to be a Untel Core Duo...
I will tell you one thing...none of the heatsink even hold a candle to the 9500 when cranked down to 7 or 5 volts. Even on SPCR they said Zalman was the clear winner.
EDIT: So it seems that at 12V it does outperform all the units they tested at the time of the review of the 9500. However,
At the tested level of airflow, the Zalman 9500 is far too loud for use in a conventional case.
Again Howard you did not read or comprehend my post which is nothing new for you I guess...what did I say.....
According to SPCR, with the Ninja running a Nexus 120mm at 12V and the 9500 at 5V (same level of noise, roughly) the Ninja is 4 degrees cooler.yet as I stated throttled down to 7 or 5 volts even SPCR says it is a very good heatsink.
Oh by the way-- Hello Howard!!
I fail to see how "very good" is "the winner".
Wrong, wrong, wrong.none of the heatsink even hold a candle to the 9500 when cranked down to 7 or 5 volts.
What your problem?
None of the heatsink hold a candle to the Zalman 9500 when they all including the Zalman 9500 are throttled down to 7volts. Thats what the SPCR article said.....
As such the zalman 9500 is the best heatsink when all other heatsinks are throttled down to 7v.......
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Actually I read the same reviews that you do and I sorry there does come a point of diminishing returns when it comes to high cfms.
That point is somewhere between 40-55 cfm`s. I own most of the heatsinks you claim are the top tire. I have run extensive tests using each and every heatsink I own and not one of thise heatsinks does better using a fan capable of 100cfm verses a fan that maxes out at between 40-55cfm!!
At one time, it was the best (or one of the best), but that was like a couple of months ago, in universal time -- years ago, in computer time...Originally posted by: Baked
I don't know why people are keep claiming the Zalman 9500 is the best heatsink ever...