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Hail The Brain Slug

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Another interesting article about ECC support seeming to work in Linux with consumer AM5 motherboards (and specific AGESA versions).


I guess I'll give it another shot when I upgrade to Zen 5. The old 7950X (at maybe 105W) would make a good enough server chip.
ECC was supported at release then disabled via agesa update. It was re-enabled in 1.0.0.5c, and as far as I am aware it will enable on all boards. Whether you can get error reporting or injection working is the wildcard, and as far as I know asus is the only brand that does handle both of those.
 
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eek2121

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Leave it to ASUS to drop the ball. Mini-ITX Motherboard pre-order delayed to 10/7.

If Zen 5 is coming out in 2024 and AMD said the socket is 2025+ that is pretty good guarantee.

Unless they are planning a new socket in 2024 which would be the opposite of what was said.

And considering their previous track record with AM4 I'm inclined to believe them.

AMD has confirmed nothing about Zen 5, just an FYI. We still have (a minimum) a 3D VCache refresh for Zen 4 and possibly some other shenanigans before a hypothetical Zen 5 product drops.

Note that AM4 is listed as 2022+ as well.

I strongly suspect that enthusiast AM5 won’t live as long as enthusiast AM4.
 

JustViewing

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What in the world are you talking about ? I have the same GPU as AdamK47, a EVGA 3090TI FTW3, and its not a hybrid by any definition I have ever heard of.
Maybe I phrased it incorrectly, what I wanted to know is will the DGPU power down during normal desktop usage? That is what AMD told us. Probably it wont work with NVIDIA GPU.
 

JustViewing

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The Real Question is... Will you be able to access the BIOS and Disable AVX-512 And run a few test for me?? Will you?? Uh?
How exactly Intel implements disabling of AVX-512? Is it just setting CPU flags? If it is just flags only, the AVX512 should work on AlderLake if forced to execute AVX512 code regardless of CPU flags. Similar to Zen1 and FMA4. Otherwise I would imagine they have to handle at decoder level to trap AVX-512 instruction and trigger exception. This would require the decoder to support disabling the AVX512 Instructions. I am not sure AMD would implement such a functionality to their decoder since many instructions are direct decode and not micro coded.
 

JustViewing

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They do it through microcode. I think this is in later bios revisions. It also happens where there are e-cores present.

But this is a Zen 4 builders thread, nothing to do with Intel.
Is micro code in the sense MicroCode ROM? To do that through micro code ROM, all the AVX512 instruction has to be micro coded. But I don't think all the AVX512 instruction are micro coded. Only complex and rarely used instruction are micro coded (I am more familier with AMD architecture than Intel so my understanding here might be incorrect). Most commonly used instructions are directly decoded to 1 or 2 u-ops. Only at decode stage the CPU will know about the instruction being decoded. Having another logic to already complex decode unit just for the purpose of disabling AVX512 seems wasteful. This is same for Intel and AMD.
 

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If you want faster speed; what till the Ryzen 7050X 3D is release! That is my next opportunity when I am looking to buying the original 7050X at a discount if I do not find my price for it on the holiday season!
 

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I apologize if that was mentioned here before, but do you know of some sort of ddr5 on am5 tuning guide? I plan on making a build near Christmas and would like to prepare. I got some non-expo memory for cheap and wanted to at least maintain the advertised frequency and timings.

The RAM is G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32GB 5200MHz CL36. This will work on MSI PRO B650M-A WiFi and 7700x.
 
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