Well, he was first out the gate with Z5 delay.
30% what? IPC or Performance?More MLID. Claims that Z5 is still strong, but not as strong as originally intended due to bugs. Reasserts he considers the
More MLID. Claims that Z5 is still strong, but not as strong as originally intended due to bugs. Reasserts he considers the 30%+
More MLID. Claims that Z5 is still strong, but not as strong as originally intended due to bugs. Reasserts he considers the 30%+ people dead
More MLID. Claims that Z5 is still strong, but not as strong as originally intended due to bugs. Reasserts he considers the 30%+ people dead wrong.
I think you quoted the wrong personThere is no such thing:
I hope performance, and i honestly hope Adroc is truthful and its higher, like 50 percent Even if its 50 percent IPC, but due to lower clocks just 30 percent overall, thats meh (to me subjectively as 7950x owner). I got 7950x as replacement for X299 system and it was about 2x as fast. Obviously i dont expect the jump between 2 consecutive gens as high, and i definitely did not expect even whats rumored now, until Adroc ramped up the hype :-D, but now its possibility, 50 percent faster than 7950x would definitely be enticing to buy to me. And it would project nicely into MT performance as well, making 16C Zen5 probably pretty close to 24C Zen4.30% what? IPC or Performance?
You need to consider it from the point i paid 700 EUROs for 7950x only a year ago. And 30 performance improvement, no matter how massive achievement it is, in historical context, or simply from technological POV, wont be something making obvious difference in performance, most of the times. I mean, the kind of speed-up you would definitely notice. Hell i cant see, the difference between my current CPU and the old one, like half the time, and the other half, when i do, its because its actually 2x faster. Would it be the same, if it was just 30 percent?30% performance improvement is 'meh'?
You guys are wild.
Do you even comprehend what you have written?I hope performance, and i honestly hope Adroc is truthful and its higher, like 50 percent Even if its 50 percent IPC, but due to lower clocks just 30 percent overall, thats meh (to me subjectively as 7950x owner). I got 7950x as replacement for X299 system and it was about 2x as fast. Obviously i dont expect the jump between 2 consecutive gens as high, and i definitely did not expect even whats rumored now, until Adroc ramped up the hype :-D, but now its possibility, 50 percent faster than 7950x would definitely be enticing to buy to me. And it would project nicely into MT performance as well, making 16C Zen5 probably pretty close to 24C Zen4.
Anything before H2, according to AMD's official material would've been an early release.
Many of us fell for the meme, but all that matters is that it comes out on time and the thing is still going to deliver all the same.
Mm I wonder where they went. 😝
Really? I thought the majority went to...A lot of them went to weird fly-by-night AI chip startups that are probably going to go under within two years.
Conroe managed to pull that IPC gain along with boosting frequency from 2.3GHz to 3+GHz.Have AMD or Intel ever seen IPC increases greater than +20% on average? Just don't cite the example of Zen1 and Conroe. Zen1 is an average IPC of +52% higher than Excavator, but it barely reached the level of Haswell from 2014. Core2(Conroe) is an IPC higher than Core(1)(Yonah) +15-20%.
You mean that one former weird fly-by-nightReally? I thought the majority went to...
I only had in mind the expansion of the core logic and the resulting IPC gain.It is known that Yonah's biggest problem was the lower maximum clock speed, so Conroe's much higher IPC and achieving a much higher clock speed resulted in a significant increase in Core 2 performance.Conroe managed to pull that IPC gain along with boosting frequency from 2.3GHz to 3+GHz.
Even if its [...] 30 percent overall, thats meh (to me subjectively as 7950x owner).
Luckily for AMD, the Total Addressable Market for Zen 5 client is a bit broader than just upgrades of AM5 computers.You need to consider it from the point i paid 700 EUROs for 7950x only a year ago.
Intel or AMD isn't the standard in large IPC bumps.Have AMD or Intel ever seen IPC increases greater than +20% on average? Just don't cite the example of Zen1 and Conroe. Zen1 is an average IPC of +52% higher than Excavator, but it barely reached the level of Haswell from 2014. Core2(Conroe) is an IPC higher than Core(1)(Yonah) +15-20%.
Eh?Intel or AMD isn't the standard in large IPC bumps.
Luckily for AMD, the Total Addressable Market for Zen 5 client is a bit broader than just upgrades of AM5 computers.
Really? I thought the majority went to...
Why did you specify +19% for Zen 3 if it is an average IPC increase and, as we know, Zen 3 clocks higher than Zen 2, so the performance should also be higher.
Figured.A P P L E
Lotta high-level people left with no one really to succeed them.However, their IPC gains have slowed to a crawl over the past few years.