we need to get Francois P point of view on Zen5Danilo ? Lol.
He's not a source of anything. Useless
What I find interesting is that there are NO negative views or leaks that I have seen on Zen 5. Unlike Intels latests that are marginally decent, but not even the best !AMD hype trains are the best!
That's no clue city.Zen 5 hype train is starting to leave the station, for better or worse. Lol
Arrow Lake is meh. Lunar is great but that is low power not desktop. AMD will own desktop for a few years more imo.What I find interesting is that there are NO negative views or leaks that I have seen on Zen 5. Unlike Intels latests that are marginally decent, but not even the best !
Well, it’s got the same IOD as Zen 4, which is arguably a bad/sad thing. Probably means Zen 5 can come faster to market but could have had some improvements to the memory controller if they wanted to invest resources.What I find interesting is that there are NO negative views or leaks that I have seen on Zen 5. Unlike Intels latests that are marginally decent, but not even the best !
In workloads which are actually able to utilize all thirty-two hardware threads, the Zen 5 based successor to 7950X will certainly make better use of the (default) socket power budget compared to 7950X. In other words, the zone of diminishing returns from an increased power limit should sit somewhere higher on Zen 5 than on Zen 4. Consequently, there should be a computing throughput gap between the 7950X successor and Strix Halo in such well parallelized workloads, if Strix Halo is only going to be available in form factors which are more constrained than desktop PCs WRT power supply and cooling performance.Regarding Strix Halo (intended for laptop), rumors say it'll be 16C Zen5 + 40 RDNA 3.5-spec compute units. So essentially close to DT variants of Zen5 in CPU perf (but likely with somewhat slower clocks), and extremely much higher iGPU perf than DT. This is assuming Zen5 on DT will only be max 16C and have same IOD (and iGPU) as Zen4.
So this means for Zen5, DT will not have much higher MT CPU perf than laptop [...]?
But still better than the stupid Zen 5....Arrow Lake is meh...
Says who? You?But still better than the stupid Zen 5.
But still better than the stupid Zen 5.
Conroe was pretty stupid as well, the memory controller was still on the chipset, very primitive compared to the sophisticated uncore of K8.But still better than the stupid Zen 5.
It's almost like they're punk'ing reviewers. Sillycon Gang even got Steve.Danilo ? Lol.
He's not a source of anything. Useless
Zen 5 hype train is starting to leave the station, for better or worse. Lol
When has AMD on CPU side "betrayed the promises" in recent times?Aaaaah... it begins, the cycle of over expectations and forced disappointment when AMD "betrays the promises".
I think that's why @Panino Manino put that in quotes. There are some people who listen to the hype and then are disappointed in AMD because reality isn't as awesome as the rumors (rather than being disappointed in the rumormongers themselves).When has AMD on CPU side "betrayed the promises" in recent times?
Its the opposite, actually.
Plebs have not even the slightest idea on how fast the thing really is so...I think that's why @Panino Manino put that in quotes. There are some people who listen to the hype and then are disappointed in AMD because reality isn't as awesome as the rumors (rather than being disappointed in the rumormongers themselves).
androc_thurston on introducing the meta hype train.Plebs have not even the slightest idea on how fast the thing really is so...
There's a general expectation mismatch between what people expect (another Zen3 at maximum) and what it actually is.I think that's why @Panino Manino put that in quotes. There are some people who listen to the hype and then are disappointed in AMD because reality isn't as awesome as the rumors (rather than being disappointed in the rumormongers themselves).
Idk, seems to me that peeps on Twitter know about 30%.There's a general expectation mismatch between what people expect (another Zen3 at maximum) and what it actually is.
30% whatIdk, seems to me that peeps on Twitter know about 30%.