Eh I disagree. I think the LTT bashing, the Asus bashing, the Zen 4X3D “investigation” and numerous other things he’s covered has been way over the top and filled with histrionics.
Eh I disagree. I think the LTT bashing, the Asus bashing, the Zen 4X3D “investigation” and numerous other things he’s covered has been way over the top and filled with histrionics.I certainly hope so. They have been at the forefront of consumer advocacy for the DIY community for years now. And I'll laugh every time they use the "Thanks Steve" "Back to you Steve" clips they took from that cringefest Intel presentation.
Do not forget his lack of a comprehensive education. His belief that the tubes on an AIO should be mounted on top when mounted on the front of a case. You guys can scratch your head on that one.Eh I disagree. I think the LTT bashing, the Asus bashing, the Zen 4X3D “investigation” and numerous other things he’s covered has been way over the top and filled with histrionics.
I’m not saying he isn’t trustworthy. I generally believe his reporting.Classic shoot the messenger fallacy; It's like shooting a charging bull with a nerf gun. With well over 2 million subscribers and one of the best reputations in the biz, GN has a lot of influence. I know who the masses will trust and it ain't anonymous forum dwellers. 🤣
It’s going to happen. He’ll do a 3 episode series on it filled with moral outrage and righteous indignation in true Gamers Nexus style.
I invoke Poe's law on this post.Well, just so long as he doesn't blame the users for not making sure the cables are flush with the connector or in this case making sure the HSF is properly mounted on the socket frame. I mean its the customer's fault if they don't buy an aftermarket mount to help that.
His belief that the tubes on an AIO should be mounted on top when mounted on the front of a case. You guys can scratch your head on that one.
However, the front of the case usually has enough space for an AIO radiator too. You can mount it here if you want to, but we only recommend this if the tubes connecting the radiator to the pump are at the bottom, with the top end of the radiator above the pump. This will make it easier for the air to naturally sit at the top of the radiator.
I was going by memory. Obviously I got his suggestion backwards. My point was that it doesn't matter. Every AIO manufacturer shows their promotional material with their AIO's with the tubes up. Most AIO (tubes) are short. Even if you wanted to mount them low you couldn't do it on the front of the case.
This is not his belief. His video on it recommends exactly the opposite. The same tubes down orientation that Corsair recommends on it's website when front mounting an AIO.
The only thing I'm scratching my head on is your blatant mischaracterization of his position on this.
I was going by memory. Obviously I got his suggestion backwards. My point was that it doesn't matter. Every AIO manufacturer shows their promotional material with their AIO's with the tubes up. Most AIO (tubes) are short. Even if you wanted to mount them low you couldn't do it on the front of the case.
Oh Okay, I must of misread your post that began with a smug ad-hominem attack regarding his "lack of a comprehensive education" and finished by suggesting we scratch our heads as to why anyone would suggest front-mounting an AIO tubes up. It seems to me your point clearly wasn't that it doesn't matter. Just take the L man. This was a dumb post. Own it and move on. Don't break your chain back-pedaling.I was going by memory. Obviously I got his suggestion backwards. My point was that it doesn't matter. Every AIO manufacturer shows their promotional material with their AIO's with the tubes up. Most AIO (tubes) are short. Even if you wanted to mount them low you couldn't do it on the front of the case.
Thanks Steve!Back to you, Steve!
I invoke Poe's law on this post.
Please show where Intel enforces this across reviews and motherboard vendors. Without enforcement, "TDP", "base power", and "turbo power" are nothing more than marketing masturbation. 508W in practice, gg.At base power of 125W (look it up on ark) the 14900k uses 91W in an average of 41 apps, while the 7950x at default uses 128W ,that's 41% more power that ryzen needs to get 3.5% more performance than intel.
Just because it is overclockable and ryzen is not doesn't mean that it's inefficient.
And base power isn't any eco mode either, it's the official TDP.
Because it's "entertainment" , you can't sue someone for his opinion.I am surprised Gamers Nexus has not been sued for some of his videos. The video in the post above about Intel is just another example.
Because that would change your, or anybody's mind, right?!Please show where Intel enforces this across reviews and motherboard vendors.
So the answer is "Intel specs are meaningless". See, that wasn't so hard to admit now, was it.Because that would change your, or anybody's mind, right?!
They can't enforce it any more than they do now. At least not without looking extremely anti-consumer in doing so.
It's the official specs on their official website, but they are unlocked parts and intel can't force reviewers to review an unlocked part fully locked. (again, not without looking extremely bad in the process)
That's right folks, it's "the user's fault" the motherboard defaults to uncapped power out of the box and demonstrably pulls 508W, while Intel does nothing to stop it. Poor poor lil' Intel, the $161 billion corporation getting bullied by those nasty mobo vendors and reviewers, amirite?But also, derbauer leaked the review guidelines for the KS model with 320W being the extreme setting (and 253W being the performance setting) in that one, far below the 500W you state for the simple K model.
Words have meanings, and if people can't understand that extreme doesn't mean default then they have serious issues.
Eh I disagree. I think the LTT bashing, the Asus bashing, the Zen 4X3D “investigation” and numerous other things he’s covered has been way over the top and filled with histrionics.
Sounds like you dislike GN and I don't know why.
What's the issue with "the contact frame stuff"?I would not be surprised if the contact frame stuff of 12th gen becomes another "its the customers fault" that the fit is not flush like Steve said with the gpu power cables.
What's the issue with "the contact frame stuff"?
I know what the contact frames are, I'm asking about the issue with contact frames and GN. AFAIK they covered both the Thermal Grizzly and Thermalright ones: mounting procedures, pressure tests, thermal results. They also explained some of the caveats.Bending or warping CPU's in the socket. Uneven contact with heatsinks leads to higher temps.