I don't recall those old slides? Do you have a link? I only remember the ones where it was compared against a 5900X and AMD claimed it would be 15% faster in gaming. I'd say they more or less matched this 15% claim based on the reviews and data available.
It is us, the enthusiasts and forum...
If you plan on keeping a CPU for 5 years, then definitely that's the right move. I only recently upgraded from a 8700K and it too went through 3 GPU upgrades so I know exactly what you mean. In your case buying the best you can afford makes the most sense with 5 years in mind.
For a lot of...
I meant the 5600, but the 5600X is only $30 more so the same argument applies.
The 5600 is widely available for $285 AUD where I live, and after conversion its ~$211 USD, so close enough to the MSRP. We do generally have to pay more for hardware here in Australia thanks to shipping costs and...
Price? Even for Zen 1/2 owners, you have to weigh up whether its worth the asking price, or if a regular Zen 3 chip that is still a fantastic upgrade from Zen 1/2 will be enough.
Case in point - upgrading from a 1600 to 5600 will net you 1.5x - 2.0x the gaming performance (when CPU bound)...
With mid range GPUs, you don't need a 5800X3D.
A $200 12400 / 5600 is more than enough to max out a 3060 and at most times a 3070: https://www.techspot.com/review/2448-amd-ryzen-5600-vs-intel-core-i5-12400f/
3080 and up will see benefits from a 5800X3D, though that will also depend on your...
What kind of GPU will you be running with a 450W PSU? Even with a 5800X3D only taking ~70W that really doesn't leave a lot of room for anything much higher than say a 3060 without pushing the limits of the PSU. Don't forget you have to power your mobo/RAM/storage/peripherals as well.
Would it...
Yeah, I don't even want to think about the latencies of DDR5-4400. Geez, I honestly think my B-Die 3600s might be able to clock close to 4400 with loose timings and extra voltage, they easily do 4000 @ CL18. Honestly defeats the purpose of DDR5 if you're gonna go that low in clockspeed, you lose...
These value comparisons are a bit disingenous since we are ignoring the fact that there are cheaper CPUs like the i7 12700F that when paired with DDR5 could well be a match for a 5800X3D in gaming. Of course, if you insist on *only* comparing the 5800X3D to the 12900K, then sure, you can get...
I'd agree. We need one of those 30 game comparisons that HWUB is known for to truly grasp how different games react to the cache. Right now, the results (and averages) can swing so wildly depending on the games tested.
Why would you even bother with high end DDR4-3800 when its literally 1-2% faster than 3200 but costs way more?
I would say a better argument in favour of the 5800X3D is that it can achieve near parity with a 12900K/DDR5 combo while *only* using DDR4-3200. So the overall platform cost is much...
Yeah, I'd agree. IMO the 5800X3D is a good 'proof of concept' CPU. I'm far more excited about what AMD can do with this tech going forward with Zen 4 and DDR5. Imagine Intel with the DDR5 advantage nullified!
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