Not really interesting in finding out zen4 efficiency with desktop parts, the i/O die is usually sniffing around 30%+ of the power alone in <100PPT comparisons, while Intel's ringbus is using less than 10W on Raptor dies, their cores get way more power to play with.
Now once phoenix makes it...
Intel is nice enough to detail their groups financials every quarter, all it takes is to read carefully.
And margins in their client groups dropping from 37 to 20, which is a FORTY FIVE PERCENT drop tells anyone that they're giving away chips.
Don't worry though, their datacenter group is doing...
Pat probably thought its better to make no profit and have fabs utilized than have even less profit and have fabs sitting idle, even if margins have to drop to single digits..
the old managment would never sacrifice margins
Intel flooding the channel with cheap chips, while AMD is trying to keep margins, just look at the Q3 CCG margin drop YoY, from 37% to 20%, like datacenter they're giving away chips for peanuts.
I seriously doubt this is sustainable for Intel, but best of luck to them.
Not actively following smartphone SoCs but I think the PHY(which should logically use the most power) should be integrated while the MAC and antennas should be separate. Happy to be corrected on this.
If Phoenix is using CoWoS or whatever fancy name it goes under now like N31 is using then I see little point in not moving the GPU to its own die, active power should be minimal but the benefits of moving the GPU chiplet to a different node with denser libraries that the CPU portion can't use...
CapframeX has an axe to grind against Ryzen for the last half year, and quite publicly at that, I trust his word as much as I trust userbenchmark.
Even if it is true, one two or even five cases where SMT and 1CCD off is beneficial does not negate the hundred others where it matters absolutely...
Genoa single core gets similar score to a 4.4/4.5GHz Cezanne APU, quite impressive.
We've been fed 2.7-3.0GHz single core mainstream (non-F) server chips for years, finally improvements are in order.
Raptor's biggest improvement comes from fixing low clocking stock ringbus, anyone tuning ADL would have fixed that first and foremost before attempting anything else.
It's gonna be real close, Raptor has a decent clock boost against 12900k, but not against the KS and tuned vs tuned will look...
Linux performance for new chips usually improves quite a decent bit in the half year following the launch, so it should look even better.
The effect is amplified for server chips while kernel maintainers tweak the NUMA settings
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