Gen Z men increasingly anti-feminist, anti-BLM: Signs of hope for Conservatives Globally?

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HomerJS

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I will admit, the story of Dennis Rodman getting caught cheating on Carmen with another woman in bed, his response is one of the funniest things I ever heard.

Won't spoil. Look it up
 
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GettyRoad

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I will admit, the story of Dennis Rodman getting caught cheating on Carmen with another woman in bed, his response is one of the funniest things I ever heard.

Won't spoil. Look it up
He was an alpha male that got humbled
 

nakedfrog

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You're so wrong. There is.
There's grifters who portray themselves in such a way, and the pathetic losers that look up to them (oh, hey, it's you! you're the pathetic loser!). Actual, self-realized men roll their eyes at the transparent bullshit "alpha men" are selling.
Once again, "alpha wolves" upon which the concept is based aren't an actual thing, go look up the study and subsequent data.
 

pmv

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Only just saw this because have the OP on ignore (but threads still appear on the main forum page, oddly enough).

All I can say is that Telegraph article is very confusing. It talks about "generation Z", which it defines as those born after 1997 and before 2012. So teenagers, basically. They'd be 12-25 now. I was wondering if that was a generation effect or a purely age effect - teenage boys are notoriously insecure and thus liable to be sexist.

But then it interviews guys in their late 20s and then gives graphs about liberal vs conservative for different countries across time for the age group 18-29 (and those graphs themselves seem very different for different countries - for the UK it says _everyone_ has gotten more 'liberal', just that women more so than men, and in any case I'm not clear what "liberal" actually means in this context - as a Gen X, when I was growing up "liberal" was always a negative word implying people considered unacceptably right-wing, i.e. not socialists. I still really struggle to hear the word "liberal" as anything other than a negative term, my parents used it practically as a curse word).

The whole argument seems very confusing to me.
 
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pmv

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Yup, I'd want to know a lot more about the methodology by which those figures were arrived at. E.g. it says "US DATA IS RESPONDENT’S STATED IDEOLOGY OTHER COUNTRIES SHOW SUPPORT FOR LIBERAL AND CONSERVATIVE PARTIES". So what is it defining as the "liberal and conservative parties" in each country?

Why assume all countries political party systems divide on a "liberal vs conservative" axis? Our "liberal" and "conservative" parties are very conservative and liberal respectively, and not long ago were in coalition together, collectively pushing very right-wing economic policies, while being rather 'liberal' in the US sense.

Most I would say is it suggests something dramatic has happened in South Korean politics and culture recently. And maybe the trend in Germany means something?

But for one thing, if they are going by support for parties, it's probably more about immigration than any other issue.
 
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There is no such actual thing as an "alpha male".

Sure there is, like if you do a study about wolves and you want to delineate for instance who the father of the pack was, you'd label them as the alpha, then their first born as beta, and so on. Now, sure, right wing dumbfucks have taken that to be some hiearchy of dominance for fucking, but that's because they grew up with stories about men that fucked their children so they could then fuck their children's children to make more children to fuck. So, their ideals of proper families is, well, fucked up.
 

Homerboy

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There's grifters who portray themselves in such a way, and the pathetic losers that look up to them (oh, hey, it's you! you're the pathetic loser!). Actual, self-realized men roll their eyes at the transparent bullshit "alpha men" are selling.
Once again, "alpha wolves" upon which the concept is based aren't an actual thing, go look up the study and subsequent data.

How come we never hear about "Alpha Females"?
 
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Drach

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Carmen Electra, ugly? You have horrible eyesight. She was one of the most beautiful women on the planet in the 90s. She still looks good today, she is 51 years old. She'd be a MILF or cougar for young guys. Carmen can get it anytime.
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And you would get a load of std's. Maybe some fools want to hit it but most know the repercussions.
 

nakedfrog

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Sure there is, like if you do a study about wolves and you want to delineate for instance who the father of the pack was, you'd label them as the alpha, then their first born as beta, and so on. Now, sure, right wing dumbfucks have taken that to be some hiearchy of dominance for fucking, but that's because they grew up with stories about men that fucked their children so they could then fuck their children's children to make more children to fuck. So, their ideals of proper families is, well, fucked up.
 
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Amol S.

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Keep telling yourself that, that I'm some Russian. Stupidity.
I have a question for you. If I remember correctly, you once said you lived in the suburbs of Jackson, Mississippi. My question is, who did you vote for in the most recent gubernatorial election?
 

brycejones

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I have a question for you. If I remember correctly, you once said you lived in the suburbs of Jackson, Mississippi. My question is, who did you vote for in the most recent gubernatorial election?
Not even close. GettyRoad claims to live in NJ. BUT they outed themselves as not even being from the US a couple of months ago. Just another foreign troll.
 

Zorba

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I think it highly telling that, as a guy, you think you have the insight into what women find attractive.

Even funnier is that you treat them as a whole bloc, as though they all have the same tastes...
Yeah, I've been with my wife for 20 years and I couldn't tell you what she finds attractive in a man. Except I can tell you for a fact she hates the body builder or even just ripped look, and can't stand "alpha" males.

If after 20 years and hundreds of conversations about attractiveness, I can't tell you about one women, I seriously doubt some guy with a hardon for c-tier celebrities from 30 years ago can tell us about all women.
 
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Leeea

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Not even close. GettyRoad claims to live in NJ. BUT they outed themselves as not even being from the US a couple of months ago. Just another foreign troll.
If he is from NJ he would at least know what type of gas he pumped last week, but has not even answered that.
 
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DAPUNISHER

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@biostud

Quick reminder: you have to provide your own commentary.

And those gym bros can't be the mythical alphas, they fear leg day.
 
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