Eh it's monolithic Cezanne, disabled igpu. L3 is lower but hell it's still 16mb like previous Ryzen and Ryzen+ and no one complained about those. Cezanne can clock DDR4 to the sky at 1:1 so some tasks will be slower but some faster. These also don't run as hot as Vermeer. I think the price will come down. The Ryzen 5500 was originally like $180 but is now often sub $100, best bang for the buck tweaker CPU since the 1600AF. The people that review these are doing a disservice by pairing Cezanne with Samsung Bdie 3200-3600. Cheap Micron E can easily do 4600MT/s on these to overcome that L3 in memory heavy tasks.
My understanding was that Samsung B die was even better at overclocking than Micron E die though? Or am I missing something? Still, if the IMC can do over 2000MHz easily, that is an improvement over Vermeer in a way. Most Vermeer chips ran 1900 FCLK or less. Generally DDR4 3600 to DDR4 3800 is considered sweet spot.Eh it's monolithic Cezanne, disabled igpu. L3 is lower but hell it's still 16mb like previous Ryzen and Ryzen+ and no one complained about those. Cezanne can clock DDR4 to the sky at 1:1 so some tasks will be slower but some faster. These also don't run as hot as Vermeer. I think the price will come down. The Ryzen 5500 was originally like $180 but is now often sub $100, best bang for the buck tweaker CPU since the 1600AF. The people that review these are doing a disservice by pairing Cezanne with Samsung Bdie 3200-3600. Cheap Micron E can easily do 4600MT/s on these to overcome that L3 in memory heavy tasks.
What does AF stand for?Call it the 5700AF perhaps. Doubt they'd price it like the 1600AF though.
For 1600, It was part of the OPN, which means nothing by itself, it's just that Ryzen 5 1600 with AF in the OPN was actually a downclocked 2600 (slightly bigger IPC, cooler chip, more OC potential)What does AF stand for?
Samsung B-die is good for tight timings up to about DDR4 4000, and since Vermeer craps out past about 3733MT/s or so, it's very good for those because it can run 3733 14-14-14, but it does tend to be more expensive. Micron E on the other hand is a bit better for higher speed looser timings, up to about 4800CL16, so they and they are cheap, making them better for Cezanne which doesn't have the same sweet spot as Vermeer and wants raw frequency since it's fabric clock can go to 2500MHz because of the monolithic die with better IO. It's not hamstrung with the legacy GLOFLO 12nm IOD leftover from Ryzen+ like Vermeer is.My understanding was that Samsung B die was even better at overclocking than Micron E die though? Or am I missing something? Still, if the IMC can do over 2000MHz easily, that is an improvement over Vermeer in a way. Most Vermeer chips ran 1900 FCLK or less. Generally DDR4 3600 to DDR4 3800 is considered sweet spot.