It is darkly funny how he argues in favor of Russia’s genocidal invasion and then argues against Israel and when you point out the contradiction he gets all offended about how mean we are to him.
It is darkly funny how he argues in favor of Russia’s genocidal invasion and then argues against Israel and when you point out the contradiction he gets all offended about how mean we are to him.-HEY HEY HEY Bringing up Ukraine in this thread is really inconvenient for Raildog's arguments so let's keep these topics separate yeah?
Almost as funny as asking him questions is “trying to trick him”It is darkly funny how he argues in favor of Russia’s genocidal invasion and then argues against Israel and when you point out the contradiction he gets all offended about how mean we are to him.
I don’t know what his deal is but if he is being honest about his views he is a deeply immoral person.Almost as funny as asking him questions is “trying to trick him”
... someone forgot to mention to them if they were ready to forfeit their life they could have been more productive and try to go over there and do something. Anything! Opportunity squandered.In Atlanta today in front of the Israeli consulate, supposedly active duty air force member
The individual, wearing fatigues, introduces himself as “an active duty member of the U.S. Air Force and I will no longer be complicit in genocide.” After ignition, he repeatedly yells “Free Palestine.”
... someone forgot to mention to them if they were ready to forfeit their life they could have been more productive and try to go over there and do something. Anything! Opportunity squandered.
You sure you read the post correctly?In Atlanta today in front of the Israeli consulate, supposedly active duty air force member
The individual, wearing fatigues, introduces himself as “an active duty member of the U.S. Air Force and I will no longer be complicit in genocide.” After ignition, he repeatedly yells “Free Palestine.”
you are correct, my mistake, the previous person had burned themselves at the Atlanta consulate, not AaronYou sure you read the post correctly?
It says this occurred in DC, not Atlanta.
“A protester self immolated outside the International Drive entrance to the Israeli Embassy, in D.C. Sunday afternoon. “
That’s literally the first sentence in the post…says DC.
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It seems most media outlets have forgotten about or are purposely ignoring the fact that one of if not the main reason why there are so many civilian casualties is due to Hamas fighters tightly mingling in with the Palestinian civilian population and using them as human shields while waging war from and within the hospitals for the same reason.
I'm left wondering why that is and why there isn't any outrage being expressed over this inhumane method of waging war against the Israeli military, who are left with the onerous task of dealing with that barbarism while having themselves being labeled as barbarians.
In this particular instance, I am not picking sides here. I'm just wondering why our own media sources are concentrating on the hardships of the Palestinian people yet not mentioning why their hardships have been made much more severe from the tactics the Hamas fighters are using on them.
In the context of their homeland being invaded and taken over by a foreign state, where exactly do you expect Hamas to be?
If Hamas ever cared to protect their own civilians they would have evacuated the parts of the city they ware using for their fight. That way all Israeli bombings would not kill a single civilian.
Hamas never cared about the wellbeing of Palestinians, they use them as expendables for their own agenda which is the eradication of the Jews and the distraction of Israel.
I can think of three distinct arguments in response to you:
1) Warfare basics
"they would have evacuated the parts of the city they were using for their fight"... how do you think modern warfare works, like two kids arranging to have their fight behind the bike shed after school?
Warfare comes down to two things: What the two belligerents are capable of doing, and what they are willing to do. Israel is capable of striking anywhere in Gaza with ease. Hamas is not capable of the same against Israel. Therefore Israel fears no retaliation relative to their actions, nor do they fear any retaliation of any sort from the rest of the world. That is why Israel is carpet-bombing civilian population centres, regardless of evacuation zones.
Imagine you are responsible for defending your country against an invasion but you don't have an air force, your opponent does, and the best notice that you'll likely get of an incoming airstrike is a matter of minutes... assuming of course you have any anti-air defences (which I don't think Hamas does). Furthermore, your opponent has effortlessly breached your country's borders.
In that scenario, do you think that it's sensible to concentrate your resources in places where your opponent will have no problem whatsoever in destroying them via air strikes that you have minimal capability to defend against? Or would you make the job of the invader as difficult as possible in the interest of standing a chance of a successful defence of your homeland?
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2) Do you think it's the job of the defender against an invasion to take the moral high ground? Especially so when the defender is losing and will inevitably lose that fight?
3) Your criticism of Hamas should also apply to Israel to at least some extent: If Israel cared about minimising civilian casualties, they wouldn't be carpet-bombing civilian population centres with unguided high-yield bombs (which even the US, despite their being very muted in their criticism, has criticised Israel for).
Israel is choosing the means with which they're destroying Palestine, not Hamas. Israel was destroying Palestine by slices before Hamas existed, now they're doing it quicker.
Each country first priority comes to its civilian population, leaving the civilians vulnerable to air strikes because you want to use their deaths as a propaganda is also a crime of war.
Just to make sure I'm understanding this; if a country gets attacked and civilians get killed because they're unable to intercept the missiles/whatever, then the county being attacked committed a war crime? Does this standard apply to Ukraine as well? How about the US on 9/11?Each country first priority comes to its civilian population, leaving the civilians vulnerable to air strikes because you want to use their deaths as a propaganda is also a crime of war.
Hamas hasn't shown any sign of being capable of defending against air strikes yet somehow it is Hamas in your opinion that is guilty of a war crime of being incapable of defending its citizens against air strikes and somehow NOT THE FAULT/WAR CRIME COMMITTED BY ISRAEL FOR AIR STRIKING CIVILIANS AND KILLING AT LEAST THIRTY THOUSAND!
Just to make sure I'm understanding this; if a country gets attacked and civilians get killed because they're unable to intercept the missiles/whatever, then the county being attacked committed a war crime? Does this standard apply to Ukraine as well? How about the US on 9/11?
Gaza and the west bank are among the most densely populated regions on the planet. There aren't 'civilian areas' and 'military areas', it all intermingles necessarily. If it didn't, Israel would have obliterated every military area that hamas had delineated from civilian infrastructure years ago.Let me explain this again to you, It is HAMAS that doesn't evacuate the Civilians from the parts of the city that HAMAS is using for their military operations.
Alright, prove that they left civilians on purpose in order to use this as propaganda, then apply the same standard to Ukrainians. I'll be waiting with bated breath.If they left the civilians in purpose to die in order to use this as a propaganda then YES it is a war crime.
Ukrainians never did that, they evacuated the cities when the war started , they never used Civilians as human shields to die in order to use them for propaganda.
Gaza and the west bank are among the most densely populated regions on the planet. There aren't 'civilian areas' and 'military areas', it all intermingles necessarily. If it didn't, Israel would have obliterated every military area that hamas had delineated from civilian infrastructure years ago.
Do bear in mind I'm not defending hamas, just point out that your argument is fallacial.
Alright, prove that they left civilians on purpose in order to use this as propaganda, then apply the same standard to Ukrainians. I'll be waiting with bated breath.
Israel announced where they would be attacking (sometimes). Civilians evacuated (if they could), then they destroyed that part of the city. Then they did the same thing to the next block, then the next block. Turns out, if you level an entire city and never let civilians leave, eventually the civilians have nowhere to go, so they end up being where you bomb.Are you suggesting HAMAS couldnt evacuate the civilians from the north of the city to a safer position in the south before the Israelis started the attack ???