Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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kage69

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So now that the AFU has reduced the population of A-50 radar planes to a grand total of five, Russia has decided after much discussion that it should probably make more.

Good thing they're so well situated to produce large, complex vehicles and don't have any brain or man power shortages. Relying on China for a lot of components should be fun.
 

KlokWyze

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It is pretty incredible how some people have become so infected by anti-US brain worms that even when an entirely separate country invades its neighbor it’s the US’ fault.

In case you need it spelled out for you Russia invading Ukraine is Russia’s fault.
Then why do we have to pay for it? This is clearly US vs Russia via Ukraine proxy. NATO is just a proxy as well kind of. NATO is very weak right now. The Euro nations aren't interested in war, but now western neoliberals can't get enough of it. Weird flip. Didn't see that one coming! I hope the war and nation building works out for the best!
 

brycejones

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Then why do we have to pay for it? This is clearly US vs Russia via Ukraine proxy. NATO is just a proxy as well kind of. NATO is very weak right now. The Euro nations aren't interested in war, but now western neoliberals can't get enough of it. Weird flip. Didn't see that one coming! I hope the war and nation building works out for the best!
Well that is certainly a take. What country are you from?
 

fskimospy

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Then why do we have to pay for it? This is clearly US vs Russia via Ukraine proxy. NATO is just a proxy as well kind of. NATO is very weak right now. The Euro nations aren't interested in war, but now western neoliberals can't get enough of it. Weird flip. Didn't see that one coming! I hope the war and nation building works out for the best!
The amount of money the US is paying is close to a rounding error in our defense budget.

As far as this war goes nobody wants it but Russia. The US tried to warn Russia before they invaded and the war would end tomorrow if Russia stopped invading. It only continues because Russia demands it.
 

zinfamous

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Then why do we have to pay for it? This is clearly US vs Russia via Ukraine proxy. NATO is just a proxy as well kind of. NATO is very weak right now. The Euro nations aren't interested in war, but now western neoliberals can't get enough of it. Weird flip. Didn't see that one coming! I hope the war and nation building works out for the best!
wellokthen
 
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kage69

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Then why do we have to pay for it? This is clearly US vs Russia via Ukraine proxy. NATO is just a proxy as well kind of. NATO is very weak right now. The Euro nations aren't interested in war, but now western neoliberals can't get enough of it. Weird flip. Didn't see that one coming! I hope the war and nation building works out for the best!


Been explained in detail at least a dozen times in this thread: it's saving us money and can prevent Americans having to fight another war in Europe. Pretty simple really, strange how this is so difficult to grasp for Russia fans. Yep, just an incredible value bolstered by no Americans being in harms way. If you can't see it then you're either blind or a hopeless shill devoted to ignorance.

You don't seem to know anything about NATO, Russia or even basic info regarding recent events. Yeah, I'll bet there is a shitload of things you don't see coming, total agreement here. Weird to pick this thread to display this condition of yours, as well as wishing Russia the best. Hint: it's not your dreaded neoliberals who are conducting a genocide. Maybe you should adjust your attempt at scorn accordingly. Europeans aren't interested in being subjugated by Russia and you fail at basic history.

You should probably return to your toys. This thread isn't a safe space for people like you.
 
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kage69

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Still no takers, care to take a shot Klok?


"Can anyone here direct me to any point in time where NATO has invaded a sovereign country to conduct a campaign of execution on those who don't support NATO control? Asking for a friend."
 
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dank69

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Then why do we have to pay for it? This is clearly US vs Russia via Ukraine proxy. NATO is just a proxy as well kind of. NATO is very weak right now. The Euro nations aren't interested in war, but now western neoliberals can't get enough of it. Weird flip. Didn't see that one coming! I hope the war and nation building works out for the best!
I get being anti-war but you might be taking it too far when you don't distinguish between offense and defense.
 

cytg111

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Then why do we have to pay for it? This is clearly US vs Russia via Ukraine proxy. NATO is just a proxy as well kind of. NATO is very weak right now. The Euro nations aren't interested in war, but now western neoliberals can't get enough of it. Weird flip. Didn't see that one coming! I hope the war and nation building works out for the best!
What's going out of your pocket?

Old second generation inventory scheduled for combustion anyway.

Can you imagine a world where Ukrainian grain is under Russian control?

In a free market, what does that mean for food security? Europe is rich, wont starve, you might have to compete with international markets in terms of bread if Ukraine's grain is taken off the market.

What did Russia do with their energy monopoly?

Image how it looks if you allow them to expand on that.


The sum of everything here Klok is that you're saving money right now. This is the cheapest deal you're ever gonna get from this mess. The most expensive? Reelect Trump. Let him hand over Ukraine and geopolitical weight to his idol. See freedom disappear. But maybe you tired of being free... forgotten what the opposite looks like.
 
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KlokWyze

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Been explained in detail at least a dozen times in this thread: it's saving us money and can prevent Americans having to fight another war in Europe. Pretty simple really, strange how this is so difficult to grasp for Russia fans. Yep, just an incredible value bolstered by no Americans being in harms way. If you can't see it then you're either blind or a hopeless shill devoted to ignorance.

You don't seem to know anything about NATO, Russia or even basic info regarding recent events. Yeah, I'll bet there is a shitload of things you don't see coming, total agreement here. Weird to pick this thread to display this condition of yours, as well as wishing Russia the best. Hint: it's not your dreaded neoliberals who are conducting a genocide. Maybe you should adjust your attempt at scorn accordingly. Europeans aren't interested in being subjugated by Russia and you fail at basic history.

You should probably return to your toys. This thread isn't a safe space for people like you.

You are very arrogant and condescending. I'm not reading the rest. Touch grass shithead.
 

KlokWyze

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Sep 7, 2006
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What's going out of your pocket?

Old second generation inventory scheduled for combustion anyway.

Can you imagine a world where Ukrainian grain is under Russian control?

In a free market, what does that mean for food security? Europe is rich, wont starve, you might have to compete with international markets in terms of bread if Ukraine's grain is taken off the market.

What did Russia do with their energy monopoly?

Image how it looks if you allow them to expand on that.


The sum of everything here Klok is that you're saving money right now. This is the cheapest deal you're ever gonna get from this mess. The most expensive? Reelect Trump. Let him hand over Ukraine and geopolitical weight to his idol. See freedom disappear. But maybe you tired of being free... forgotten what the opposite looks like.
Taxes. Mass human death is never good though. It just leads to more war and more idiot shills for it.

Ukraine shouldn't be floated. It was always known as one of the most corrupt governments in the world since I was alive.

The Pentagon is pushing nation building AGAIN. When has it worked in the last 40 years? Y'all are smoking some fucking thicc crack.

To be honest though, I was king of just testing the waters in here. A lot of the people in here mentally ill and argue in bad faith. I won't waste my time here again.
 
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fskimospy

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Taxes. Mass human death is never good though. It just leads to more war and more idiot shills for it.

Ukraine shouldn't be floated. It was always known as one of the most corrupt governments in the world since I was alive.

The Pentagon is pushing nation building AGAIN. When has it worked in the last 40 years? Y'all are smoking some fucking thicc crack.

To be honest though, I was king of just testing the waters in here. A lot of the people in here mentally ill and argue in bad faith. I won't waste my time here again.
You seem very upset with people pointing out problems with your logic.

Regardless, I guess that means you won’t be wasting anyone else’s time either so we all win!
 

brycejones

Lifer
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Taxes. Mass human death is never good though. It just leads to more war and more idiot shills for it.

Ukraine shouldn't be floated. It was always known as one of the most corrupt governments in the world since I was alive.

The Pentagon is pushing nation building AGAIN. When has it worked in the last 40 years? Y'all are smoking some fucking thicc crack.

To be honest though, I was king of just testing the waters in here. A lot of the people in here mentally ill and argue in bad faith. I won't waste my time here again.
How specifically is the Pentagon pushing nation building in Ukraine? You complain about people arguing in bad faith but you haven't supplied factual information to support your claims. P&N can feel pretty harsh if you are unwilling to actually do the work to support your positions with evidence. It's very much a place you get what you give.
 

brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
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Taxes. Mass human death is never good though. It just leads to more war and more idiot shills for it.

Ukraine shouldn't be floated. It was always known as one of the most corrupt governments in the world since I was alive.

The Pentagon is pushing nation building AGAIN. When has it worked in the last 40 years? Y'all are smoking some fucking thicc crack.

To be honest though, I was king of just testing the waters in here. A lot of the people in here mentally ill and argue in bad faith. I won't waste my time here again.
Can someone give @KlokWyze a participation trophy to help their feels?
 

dank69

Lifer
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Ukraine shouldn't be floated. It was always known as one of the most corrupt governments in the world since I was alive.

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Here is your chance to learn. Ukraine was corrupt. Corrupted by Russian influence. Remember the Biden "blackmail" phone call? That was Biden using his power of office to push them to get rid of one of their last corrupt holdouts. Conservative media told you it was the opposite, that Biden was enabling corruption. This info is out there, again, if you ever get sick of being lied to.

Then remember Trump's perfect phone call? "I'll give you defense aid if you get dirt on my political opponent." That is what corruption looks like. A US President primarily financed by Russia withholding aid from a country that Russia wants for itself. If Trump was still President Ukraine would already be gone.
 

kage69

Lifer
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You are very arrogant and condescending. I'm not reading the rest. Touch grass shithead.


Nah, I just don't have much patience for low information trolls and magats in here. You exposed yourself as a moron with your first post, that's on you.

If you don't like getting called out for posting stupid shit, don't post stupid shit. Pretty straightforward really.

Again, this is not a safe space for people like you. Not reading over your hurt feels sounds on point for your kind though, more of a talk radio guy I bet. It shows. The US is nation preserving, it's Russia that's trying to do the nation building. Kind of incredible your IQ is low enough to get that reversed, way to self own, putz.
 

kage69

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
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Man, the asshole, orc-propagandists are in full swing. Can we all just ignore them, please? I swear, I've read the same shitty back and forth 5 times now 😵‍💫

Put them on Ignore.

Some of us enjoy adorning our boots with them.
 
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