Maybe if right wing shitheads can jack up cyber trucks and hang balls from the back a few might do it? They could drive around with their Elon blow up dolls and Confederate flags.
In the U.S., BEV unit sales were up about 45% last year. Gotta love the 🤡 insisting that demand is "fading" fast.An opinion piece written by an economist with roots leading back to the Bush administration is exactly what I would call hype.
Don't interpret this as advice (I drive low miles annually also), but @ 2k miles a year, car sharing would be superior to ownership IMO. But we love our cars and the freedom of having one available at all times. But anyway, for you or I to buy a BEV would be absolutely silly unless we ramped up our driving significantly.Mine won't be EV. I'd need a new panel in the house (was quoted $4600 for this in 2016!), a sub-panel in the garage, upgrade my service to 200 amp. About $10,000 at least + a charger.
I drive about 2K a year. How long before ROI on the home upgrades? Not even looking at the price the car. I don't think I'd live long enough.
That won't work because Trump is constantly telling MAGAts that BEVs are unAmerican.Maybe if right wing shitheads can jack up cyber trucks and hang balls from the back a few might do it? They could drive around with their Elon blow up dolls and Confederate flags.
Don't interpret this as advice (I drive low miles annually also), but @ 2k miles a year, car sharing would be superior to ownership IMO. But we love our cars and the freedom of having one available at all times. But anyway, for you or I to buy a BEV would be absolutely silly unless we ramped up our driving significantly.
You might be onto something, add in a fog-machine option with decorative exhaust pipes, and the fog juice dyed black...Maybe if right wing shitheads can jack up cyber trucks and hang balls from the back a few might do it? They could drive around with their Elon blow up dolls and Confederate flags.
At 2k miles per year I'm not going to suggest you buy an EV, but you don't even need to have a level 2 charger installed for that mileage. I drive 15k miles per year and charge almost exclusively off a regular outlet.Mine won't be EV. I'd need a new panel in the house (was quoted $4600 for this in 2016!), a sub-panel in the garage, upgrade my service to 200 amp. About $10,000 at least + a charger.
I drive about 2K a year. How long before ROI on the home upgrades? Not even looking at the price the car. I don't think I'd live long enough.
I think most people don't realize you can just plug into a boring shit outlet. Like unless you just got back from a 250m journey and you have time to microwave soup before you start your next leg, nobody really needs a thumpy charger.At 2k miles per year I'm not going to suggest you buy an EV, but you don't even need to have a level 2 charger installed for that mileage. I drive 15k miles per year and charge almost exclusively off a regular outlet.
Depends on the battery draw. Rivian you will see between 0-1mi/hr at 15 amp/120VI think most people don't realize you can just plug into a boring shit outlet. Like unless you just got back from a 250m journey and you have time to microwave soup before you start your next leg, nobody really needs a thumpy charger.
That may change if we ever start turning our cars into whole home batteries.
A tesla charger steps down to 15a/240V.Even level 2, don't you only need like 40 amps? As long as you have room for a double pole breaker in your panel or can shift stuff to make room you can run a circuit. It's ok if all the breakers add up to more than the rating of the whole panel.
There are load balancing calculations to make sure you don't over load your panel, but if you aren't running central AC and you have at least a 100-amp panel, you'd be just fine.Even level 2, don't you only need like 40 amps? As long as you have room for a double pole breaker in your panel or can shift stuff to make room you can run a circuit. It's ok if all the breakers add up to more than the rating of the whole panel.
Yeah, I drive my Mustang a little bit more than that but not by much. I only put around 4K miles(8K km)a year on it and kind of regret spending the money on my L2 EVSE(charger).At 2k miles per year I'm not going to suggest you buy an EV, but you don't even need to have a level 2 charger installed for that mileage. I drive 15k miles per year and charge almost exclusively off a regular outlet.
Model 3 will pull 4-5 mph on 120v 15A. It’s fine for cars that can get 3-4miles per kWh and daily driving average is around 40 miles.Depends on the battery draw. Rivian you will see between 0-1mi/hr at 15 amp/120V
But then you could just be witnessing the issue that heavier vehicles are less efficient. American manufacturing and profit incentives have led to us collectively taking efficiency gains and flushing them away on bigger and heavier vehicles.Depends on the battery draw. Rivian you will see between 0-1mi/hr at 15 amp/120V
A few people in my apartment complex have electric vehicles - Model 3, Ionic 5, Leaf... Since they happen to have outlet-adjacent parking in the covered garage, I see them charging straight off a wall outlet. Haven't actually talked to any of them about their experiences, but they seem to be doing just fine.At 2k miles per year I'm not going to suggest you buy an EV, but you don't even need to have a level 2 charger installed for that mileage. I drive 15k miles per year and charge almost exclusively off a regular outlet.
Model 3 will pull 4-5 mph on 120v 15A. It’s fine for cars that can get 3-4miles per kWh and daily driving average is around 40 miles.
My charger is just inside the garage. When I’m not doing projects I park and charge in the garage.Do you need a garage for it to charge in the cold? That can be a big issue, most people who have a garage use it as a shop or shed not for car, as home garages tend to be super small and if they don't have a separate shed it ends up being used as that. Storing a car in the garage also makes it rust faster because the salt starts to work at higher temps. Outside in the -30's the salt is not damaging the car as fast.
I'm turning my garage into a shop but plan to run a 240v junction box to the outside in case I ever do get an EV but I'd be charging outside all the time.
True. But all the auto manufacturers are cutting back on EV's right now. Toyota has cut thiers by 40%. Ford as well. there is no demand.
In fact I just saw a video where some guys in Colorado fully charged a Tesla Performance M3 and left it out overnight in below 0F conditions. The next morning they drove it on the highway in the snow on snow tires at 0F which is pretty bad for range. They got about 160 miles before recharging with a few % left, (started at 95% or ~ 278miles of range).
You’d probably want a level 2 charger (240v) as a level 1 charger may struggle to both warm the battery and charge it at those temperatures. I’d expect heated seats and steering wheel to help with comfort but not sure how fast heat pump equipped cars would warm up. Although plugged in you could easily tell the car when you’re leaving and have it start warming up before you leave.0F is pretty warm though that's about -17C which is a fairly standard winter day. I would HOPE that it would work fine! I'm more wondering about real cold like -40. Will you still be able to charge it outside. Not everyone has a garage, or a heated one, or one that has enough room. We don't seem to get -40's much anymore though, but they do happen. Even a gas car has to be plugged in when it's that cold though, but I would just hope that an EV will still in fact charge/start when plugged in too.
Just looked again yesterday and the dealerships in SE MI are continuing to play games with EVs. If you have $60k cash to plunk down they'll give you $7500 in rebates. Need to finance? No rebate for you. It's like they're trying to make buying an EV harder.There's some weird shit going on with EV pricing and this 'no demand' right now. I've been casually in the market for an EV for about a year now. Kia and Hyundai are doing a $7500 rebate because they don't qualify for the tax credit. ALL the dealers by me are adding $3500-7500 BS charges to the prices to eat into that savings. I'd have to drive several hours away to avoid that. Fords been jacking the price of the F150 Lightning all over the map and removing trim levels. Dealers have been adding special fees to those as well and, at least at one point, the Mach-E. I can't say that's the case everywhere or its what is sapping demand but I wouldn't be surprised if consumers don't want to put up with that extra bullshit on top of the normal dealership bs.
Even better the car salesmen I've talked to don't know shit about the EVs on their lot. I also asked if there was a way I could do a longer (1-2 hour) test drive to see how the Ioniq 5 or 6 was for my back given my back problems and they told me no. That I should call Enterprise or another car rental place to see if I could rent one. Great thanks guys.
Traditional dealerships probably hate EVs. They will get minimal profit from them after sale as maintenance is extremely low compared to conventional cars.Just looked again yesterday and the dealerships in SE MI are continuing to play games with EVs. If you have $60k cash to plunk down they'll give you $7500 in rebates. Need to finance? No rebate for you. It's like they're trying to make buying an EV harder.