Question Wherefore art thou, 4k?

GunsMadeAmericaFree

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I was browsing a number of monitors recently, and noticed that the resolution is basically unchanged from 15+ years ago.

I would have thought that 4K resolution on computer monitors would have been getting common by now. Since it isn't, will it ever?
 

WilliamM2

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Sure hope it never becomes common. Text is too small.
4K is overated even on TV's.
 

Mahboi

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What are you talking about, 4K is everywhere.
Probably not in the price range you were looking at though.
It's easily 66% more expensive than 1440p for the same refresh rate/size/general build quality...
 

adamge

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I'm still dreaming of 16:10, 4:3, and as a last last resort, 2560x1440 32" with good value pricing ($140 USD).
 
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Tup3x

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Sure hope it never becomes common. Text is too small.
4K is overated even on TV's.
Ehh... That's completely wrong way of thinking. Higher resolution means better text rendering. I'd love to get 5K 27" inch since text rendering is meh at 2560x1440.
 
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WilliamM2

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Ehh... That's completely wrong way of thinking. Higher resolution means better text rendering. I'd love to get 5K 27" inch since text rendering is meh at 2560x1440.
It's still smaller, and harder to read. I've already tried it.
I sit back from my monitors.
 

Tup3x

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It's still smaller, and harder to read. I've already tried it.
I sit back from my monitors.
It isn't. The whole point of high resolution display is that you get more pixels per inch. That's only true if you do not use any scaling and that makes no sense.
 
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gdansk

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There are a lot of 4K monitors. But 200% scaling looks so much better and most 4K monitors are too big for it. Apple has this figured out: 5K for 27". I'm amazed the rest of the industry hasn't caught up despite them doing 5K at 27" for 10 years now.

Where are the high refresh rate 5K 27" OLED monitors, Samsung/LG?
 

WelshBloke

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It isn't. The whole point of high resolution display is that you get more pixels per inch. That's only true if you do not use any scaling and that makes no sense.
Windows scaling is still wonky. My laptop has a stupid high resolution for a 13 inch screen (3840 x 2400) and its just fortunate that I can run it at a lower resolution that's exactly divisible!
 

mindless1

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It isn't. The whole point of high resolution display is that you get more pixels per inch. That's only true if you do not use any scaling and that makes no sense.
I agree, but also have multiple software titles that don't scale, so they are a pain to use yet I must.... so change resolution, and change it back, or run 2nd low DPI monitor just for those.
 

mindless1

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There are a lot of 4K monitors. But 200% scaling looks so much better and most 4K monitors are too big for it. Apple has this figured out: 5K for 27". I'm amazed the rest of the industry hasn't caught up despite them doing 5K at 27" for 10 years now.

Where are the high refresh rate 5K 27" OLED monitors, Samsung/LG?
Disagree, 27" is far too small, 32" at 1440p would be better than 27" at even 40,000p... and this coming from someone who can't stand 1080p at any (small) size.

Why do silly and expensive things when nice sized 4K monitors exist? Granted I mean if you don't sit with your nose practically touching the monitor. A larger monitor that is a bit further away, that gives you more desk space, is the same difference if you really want the smaller field of vision you'd get with a mere 27" monitor.

Scooting the monitor further away is wonderful, even if it is only a few inches of desk space gained. If the desk is not deep enough, that's the next thing to upgrade.
 

gdansk

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Disagree, 27" is far too small, 32" at 1440p would be better than 27" at even 40,000p... and this coming from someone who can't stand 1080p at any (small) size.

Why do silly and expensive things when nice sized 4K monitors exist? Granted I mean if you don't sit with your nose practically touching the monitor. A larger monitor that is a bit further away, that gives you more desk space, is the same difference if you really want the smaller field of vision you'd get with a mere 27" monitor.

Scooting the monitor further away is wonderful, even if it is only a few inches of desk space gained. If the desk is not deep enough, that's the next thing to upgrade.
I am not too picky about the display size but DPI. 190-220 is a good range.
If you want a 32" monitor it should be 6K. 27" should be 5K and 24" should be 4K. Unsurprisingly, Apple has this correct at every display size.
 
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gdansk

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I agree, but also have multiple software titles that don't scale, so they are a pain to use yet I must.... so change resolution, and change it back, or run 2nd low DPI monitor just for those.
But there is per application scaling override in Windows 10 and later. Try 'System (Enhanced)'. It usually works and 'System' can look like blurry crap if you don't use a multiple of 100% scaling.
 
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mindless1

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^ Per application scaling doesn't do anything useful to scale things that don't scale so they are too small.
 

Mopetar

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What are you talking about, 4K is everywhere.
Probably not in the price range you were looking at though.

4K displays are cheap now. Dell has some 27" ones listed for $230. I paid slightly more than that (a piece) for three of them last year when I upgraded the monitors in my office.

If they're not being more widely adopted it's probably because at sizes below 32" most people tend to prefer 1440p just for size of text and UI elements.
 
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