Also servers parts not only do no need the higher frequency capable parts
That s a very tiny part of the server market, not only that s relatively low cores count products but it s also about nothing in numbers of dies compared to the DT parts.There's a segment of the server market that likes per core performance, ie clock speeds.
You mean like almost every on prem enterprise customer. Licensing models heavily prioritise per core performance.That s a very tiny part of the server market, not only that s relatively low cores count products but it s also about nothing in numbers of dies compared to the DT parts.
That s not the point that is discussed here, get back to DrMrLordX post, and even then your point was adressed in previous posts.You mean like almost every on prem enterprise customer. Licensing models heavily prioritise per core performance.
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It's a 4WGP config IIRC, so 8 CUs.View attachment 96908
How many CUs does Kraken Point's iGPU have?
So peasants get only half the GPU of the nobles' Strix Point!It's a 4WGP config IIRC, so 8 CUs.
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How many CUs does Kraken Point's iGPU have?
So peasants get only half the GPU of the nobles' Strix Point!
Might make for a decent Steam Deck 2 SoC though, assuming the GPU clocks can improve substantially without a big power add.Kraken is the Zen5 value APU, equivalent to Zen4's Phoenix 2 with some C cores mixed in to reduce overall CPU area along with the lower CU count of the GPU.
Agreed. I built four 7950x systems. In the end still cheaper than a Epyc/TR and much faster overall when the encoding fps is combined vs a single 64 core machine because of faster clocks.I use a 5600x. I'm not overestimating anything.
There's different tiers of buyers and they have different reasons. Those who want a 16 core are rarely doing it for the fun of it, as Igor said, they either don't care how much they spend or are professionals who will spend highly hoping to work faster. It is you who think that because you consider CPUs based on perf/price, others do. Most others who will splurge on a 14900k or a 7950x do so because they expect huge perf or because they expect returns.
You will be faced with four times the temptation to upgrade them to 9950XI built four 7950x systems.
What urban legends? At least for Milan-X and Genoa-X, they shared identical CCDs with Vermeer-X and Raphael-X (respectively). The server parts launched first, and presumably the CCDs all came from the same wafers. Do you really think Turin-X will be any different?That s based on urban legends
That was all in the plan bro. Eagerly waiting for Zen 5, I'm lurking and reading. Not even looking at Intel. This "farm" can encode 2000~ 24min videos to AV1 1080p per day. A 30%+ MT perf increase at similar power? Dang I'm drooling. These beasts all do min 5.1Ghz all core MT encoding 24/7.You will be faced with four times the temptation to upgrade them to 9950X
Their Genoa counterparts do a minimum of 3.5 ghz all-core for 64 cores. Thats pretty killer for a server chip. Oh, and they have 12 channel memory, not 2 channel, so that could make a difference. Try one.That was all in the plan bro. Eagerly waiting for Zen 5, I'm lurking and reading. Not even looking at Intel. This "farm" can encode 2000~ 24min videos to AV1 1080p per day. A 30%+ MT perf increase at similar power? Dang I'm drooling. These beasts all do min 5.1Ghz all core MT encoding 24/7.
@MangoX's argument is that there are cases like his in which the marked up price of top end desktop CPUs, compared to mid range desktop CPUs, is easily justifiable due to the throughput the user wants (and gets).Try one.
I feel you, and respect you for what you do. That's just not what I'm looking for. The platform costs alone for Epyc/TR are insane compared to AM5. I'm good with 16C/32T, 64GB memory per machine. Tried to do 145ppt power limit. Max all core 4.7ish, 145w package power. But I need speed, so I run these PBO out of the box, 360m AIO keeps them cool, at 95C . They so fast makes my 5800x look stupid, even when comparing half core count. They way more than 2x faster.Their Genoa counterparts do a minimum of 3.5 ghz all-core for 64 cores. Thats pretty killer for a server chip. Oh, and they have 12 channel memory, not 2 channel, so that could make a difference. Try one.
Just in case you change your mind..... EPYC mobo $715, memory, was $720, and last 9554 I got (best price on ebay) was $1200, and that was quite a while ago, but I now see they have gotten popular, so $2500.I feel you, and respect you for what you do. That's just not what I'm looking for. The platform costs alone for Epyc/TR are insane compared to AM5. I'm good with 16C/32T, 64GB memory per machine. Tried to do 145ppt power limit. Max all core 4.7ish, 145w package power. But I need speed, so I run these PBO out of the box, 360m AIO keeps them cool, at 95C . They so fast makes my 5800x look stupid, even when comparing half core count. They way more than 2x faster.
Now EPYC: $1k mobos, 12 mem stick requirements for a single server processor? I don't see how that's worth it for me. Sure I know you can get ES samples for cheaper on eBay, but that's not something I'm into, or willing to take a risk with. I buy either OEM or retail.
If Zen5 can deliver, then perfect! A easy drop in upgrade for these machines. I can't wait. Even a 20% boost is good. 30%+ even better. Bring it AMD.
What urban legends? At least for Milan-X and Genoa-X, they shared identical CCDs with Vermeer-X and Raphael-X (respectively). The server parts launched first, and presumably the CCDs all came from the same wafers. Do you really think Turin-X will be any different?
Chinese netizen said they have STH in hands. But they don't have official firmware/drivers support yet, so performance is a bit lackluster.He is remarkable terse on this important issue...
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But maybe we'll get some tidbits sooner rather than later...
Van Gogh is already 8 CU though, so it would have to be a major clock boost which is unlikely to come economically to power.Might make for a decent Steam Deck 2 SoC though, assuming the GPU clocks can improve substantially without a big power add.
Tangent following that thought, the Deck is truly an impressive thing, Valve may deserve to use the phrase "Bespoke Hardware" far more than Nuvidia and its silly Tensor Cores that apparently do everything cool in the GPU despite being just a matmul engine.You just described running a Steam Deck at 540p.
Olrak uses his Twitter account to troll people and nothing else. He's never giving out actual info, he just enjoys teasing people cause he's always bored. Don't expect anything out of him.He is remarkable terse on this important issue...
But maybe we'll get some tidbits sooner rather than later...