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MrSquished

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I have never played a Fallout game, just have seen reviews, but I absolutely loved this show. Just so unique and different and wild and wacky while making great social commentary in such a beautifully crafted world. I mean it's just very well done and the production, acting and ambience are all top notch.
 

zinfamous

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Show is damned good. Acting is great, it nails the atmosphere, and the action and CGI are well done. I don't care about some retconning or lack of continuity.

If you know little or nothing about Fallout, don't scratch your head about the weird tech like how passwords are cracked, why a stimpack instantly heals mortal wounds, rad away cures radiation poisoning, or any of that stuff like fusion cores. It's simply remaining faithful to the gameplay.

Predictably, the Fallout games are experiencing a big boost in player count at the moment thanks to the show.

yeah, you just have to accept those things. To the show's credit, they are happy to make fun of themselves with the general silliness of jabbing a stimpack into your arm to fix a compound fracture or whatever. I chuckled at The Ghoul stumbling through the Shop and Save, consuming everything he can find on the ground to restore his stamina.

I really like how the Vault Dweller plays the very naive, yet alarmingly capable explorer that both known absolutely nothing about the world and people, but somehow is beyond prepared to deal with all of it. There are enough nods to the fans of the game for what it's like playing these games that probably isn't noticed by the general audience, so it isn't distracting/immersion-breaking (the opening training sequence that is basically a character-creation/trait selection screen; the gate-keeper dude that fixes some new engineering problem while there is one of those trait dolls sitting on a shelf near him. He doesn't pick it up and like, eat it or something stupid like that--it's just there. I thought that was a bit neat)
 

zinfamous

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I have never played a Fallout game, just have seen reviews, but I absolutely loved this show. Just so unique and different and wild and wacky while making great social commentary in such a beautifully crafted world. I mean it's just very well done and the production, acting and ambience are all top notch.

I was honestly surprised with how well they did the opening sequence of when the shit actually hit the fan. The excessive use of CGI all over the place has numbed me to most film for some years now, but this was super impressive to me. Just...the idea of it. Like, holy fucking shit this is really really really bad.

I'm glad that this is more New Vegas and even FO 1 than the others (I think?). It does make me want to fire up NV again.
 
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Ajay

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It does make me want to fire up NV again.
Tried that - really sucks hard on Windows 11.

Liking the series so far. I'm a big F4 fan (live near Boston, been there many times). So, it's a bit different. Have to see the series thru b/4 making a judgement. Started 76, and meh, what are all these other ppl running around - and how did they claim/kill stuff I was going to do.
 

purbeast0

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I finished it tonight and thought it was awesome. I am not a fan of the games and don't like anything Bethesda makes. I am just not into those kind of first person action RPG games at all. So I don't know anything about the game world or anything like that.

But I thought the show was great and can't wait for season 2. The way it ended just made me want to watch more and they definitely left a great story to be told in the next season. They also left some things unanswered which is fine too so they can give answers in the next season, unless I missed some stuff.

I had read that some people said it got a little slow/down around episode 6 and I agreed but after finishing the final episode, the direction it went in those episodes made total sense why they did that. In general, I just am not a fan of shows where they ...

spend so much damn time in flashbacks. I want to know what is going on in the current story and don't care about the past. However, the way everything tied in with the flashback stuff into the final episode, I was okay with it after the fact.

All in all, a fantastic show IMO.
 

dlerious

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Watched the first 3 episodes one night and finished it off second night. I enjoyed it. Kind of feel like a re-watch.
 
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DAPUNISHER

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Man did the show ever get people excited about the games. Top 10 games sold in Europe this week. FO4 with a 7500% increase in sales.

  1. Fallout 4
  2. Helldivers 2
  3. EA Sports FC 24
  4. Grand Theft Auto V
  5. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3
  6. Red Dead Redemption 2
  7. Hogwarts Legacy
  8. Fallout 76
  9. Fallout: New Vegas
  10. Fallout 3
Show has garnered enough positive reception that season 2 is now confirmed.
 

DAPUNISHER

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I am just not into those kind of first person action RPG games at all. So I don't know anything about the game world or anything like that.
It probably still wouldn't be your jam, but you can play 3rd person. I used to play that way back in the Xbox 360 days. LOLs to be had at some of the comical ways I would get rekt.
 

zinfamous

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I finished it tonight and thought it was awesome. I am not a fan of the games and don't like anything Bethesda makes. I am just not into those kind of first person action RPG games at all. So I don't know anything about the game world or anything like that.

But I thought the show was great and can't wait for season 2. The way it ended just made me want to watch more and they definitely left a great story to be told in the next season. They also left some things unanswered which is fine too so they can give answers in the next season, unless I missed some stuff.

I had read that some people said it got a little slow/down around episode 6 and I agreed but after finishing the final episode, the direction it went in those episodes made total sense why they did that. In general, I just am not a fan of shows where they ...

spend so much damn time in flashbacks. I want to know what is going on in the current story and don't care about the past. However, the way everything tied in with the flashback stuff into the final episode, I was okay with it after the fact.

All in all, a fantastic show IMO.

yeah, modern serialized shows have this tendency to dedicate a late episode to "the flashback that explains everything!" It's really annoying and seems that there isn't a single writer producing this content these days that doesn't lean on that crutch.

I don't mind the flashback here and there, in snippets and maybe ongoing throughout the series if it's clever and informative, but dedicated episode 9 of 10 to an entire flashback that completely removes you from the progress of the story, to simply tell you everything that was never really revealed through normal character development up until that point is just lazy and obnoxious.

With Fallout, there was definitely a lot of flashback throughout, but it didn't bother me because that was already the pace of the show.
 

zinfamous

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It probably still wouldn't be your jam, but you can play 3rd person. I used to play that way back in the Xbox 360 days. LOLs to be had at some of the comical ways I would get rekt.

I always play Bethesda games 3rd person. Still, the games can just get tedious time-sinks where at some point, you can lose all sense of why you are doing any of this. FO 4 is probably the worst offender for me. ...honeslty, I think I got to the very last mission, maybe halfway through it, when I completely stopped playing, lol.

I don't think I got nearly that far with NV, but I also got burned out with it. Still, that's the only one I consider replaying...or FO2, I guess.
 

purbeast0

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It probably still wouldn't be your jam, but you can play 3rd person. I used to play that way back in the Xbox 360 days. LOLs to be had at some of the comical ways I would get rekt.
Definitely not my jam no matter what the view point is.
 

WelshBloke

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I'm glad that this is more New Vegas and even FO 1 than the others (I think?). It does make me want to fire up NV again.
I've only seen the first episode (that I was pretty impressed with) but that episode is very much Fallout Shelter (the mobile phone game). The raiders, her wandering around in a wedding dress, even the raider bomb at the door!
 
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DAPUNISHER

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I always play Bethesda games 3rd person. Still, the games can just get tedious time-sinks where at some point, you can lose all sense of why you are doing any of this. FO 4 is probably the worst offender for me. ...honeslty, I think I got to the very last mission, maybe halfway through it, when I completely stopped playing, lol.

I don't think I got nearly that far with NV, but I also got burned out with it. Still, that's the only one I consider replaying...or FO2, I guess.
I play first person on PC with kyb&m. I like grinding so from FO3 on I never get bored. I need to count them but I must have over 30 suits of power armor in FO4. Pimped out with whatever I think is best for different parts of the map. Jet pack is the most ubiquitous item since it can be a time and climb saver. I don't play with mods like I used to with New Vegas. There's enough to keep me entertained as is. I start a new playthrough now and then. Going full Grognak the Barbarian is a lot different from being a stealth sniper. Taking different perks mixes it up too. Being an idiot savant, that kind of stuff.
 

WelshBloke

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On a related note, isn't Fallout 4 supposed to be getting a big update this month? Last time I tried to play it it was not happy on an UW monitor so hopefully they'll fix that.
 

DAPUNISHER

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On a related note, isn't Fallout 4 supposed to be getting a big update this month? Last time I tried to play it it was not happy on an UW monitor so hopefully they'll fix that.
  • PC Update:
    • Widescreen and ultra-widescreen support.
    • Fixes for the Creation Kit.
    • Various quest updates.
Looks like they got you homie.
 
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GodisanAtheist

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Ok so wife and I watched first two episodes.

As the kids would say, the show feels solidly mid.

The whole thing is just loaded to the gills with Easter eggs and inside humor but there isn't a lot of plot really pulling me in (seriously, the main character's whole purpose for leaving the vault is basically a meme).

Set and production values are fantastic, although the visuals suffer pretty badly from that "I'm the apocalypse, not your mother" level of clutter without the grime. Lots of people walking around in mishmash clothes that clearly came out of the washer that day.

The tone of the show is definitely off though. It sort of whips around between serious, whimsical, slapstick goofy, terrifying... it seems to be having a helluva time getting the Fallout feel pinned down.

That's not much of a surprise since Bethsoft has been flanderizing the shit out of fallout as they've gone along, with 3 being their best attempt and 4 being right on the verge of tipping over into sillytown. Never played 76 but heard it was worse than 4 (although I do put a lot of that on it being an MMO).

I don't like that the show is set in California. This far I've been able to treat FO 1/2/NV as a separate universe from 3/4/76 and enjoy the merits of each but I feel like I'm not going to enjoy Bethsoft's take on the Mojave wasteland.

All that said, it's been two episodes, I'll give the entire season a shot. I mean I'm paying for it anyway.
 
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DAPUNISHER

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Ok so wife and I watched first two episodes.

As the kids would say, the show feels solidly mid.

The whole thing is just loaded to the gills with Easter eggs and inside humor but there isn't a lot of plot really pulling me in (seriously, the main character's whole purpose for leaving the vault is basically a meme).
WTF are you on about my dude? In Fallout 3 we leave the vault looking for our dad voiced by Liam Neeson. She leaves to find her dad in the show, it's dead on faithful to the games.
Set and production values are fantastic, although the visuals suffer pretty badly from that "I'm the apocalypse, not your mother" level of clutter without the grime. Lots of people walking around in mishmash clothes that clearly came out of the washer that day.
I find clean clothes in the games all the time. It is one of the many wink wink nudge nudge easter eggs, is my hot take.
The tone of the show is definitely off though. It sort of whips around between serious, whimsical, slapstick goofy, terrifying... it seems to be having a helluva time getting the Fallout feel pinned down.
You just described the wild wasteland perk from New Vegas. Again we diverge massively on how we interpret the show's intent. My hot take is you are witnessing different playthrough styles simultaneously via the main characters. On my first few playthroughs I was the Messiah by the end of the game. My son was always the Devil first time through. So it tracks for me. No matter what you are going to have to fuck shit up during a playthrough. But who, what, and why is the rub. I think the show is doing a good job of reflecting that.

but I feel like I'm not going to enjoy Bethsoft's take on the Mojave wasteland.
Confirmation bias almost always wins. There is little chance you won't see exactly what you want to see due to it.
 

GodisanAtheist

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1) WTF are you on about my dude? In Fallout 3 we leave the vault looking for our dad voiced by Liam Neeson. She leaves to find her dad in the show, it's dead on faithful to the games.

2) I find clean clothes in the games all the time. It is one of the many wink wink nudge nudge easter eggs, is my hot take.

3) You just described the wild wasteland perk from New Vegas. Again we diverge massively on how we interpret the show's intent. My hot take is you are witnessing different playthrough styles simultaneously via the main characters. On my first few playthroughs I was the Messiah by the end of the game. My son was always the Devil first time through. So it tracks for me. No matter what you are going to have to fuck shit up during a playthrough. But who, what, and why is the rub. I think the show is doing a good job of reflecting that.


4) Confirmation bias almost always wins. There is little chance you won't see exactly what you want to see due to it.

1) It has been an issue with the Bethsoft Fallouts, a core quest that should be time sensitive but instead you go running off completing goofy side quests instead. In 3 you leave the vault looking for Dad, in 4 you are looking for your son. I get the show might have taken this approach tongue firmly in cheek but my first reaction was "you gotta be shitting me". Again, two episodes in so I concede the main plot may thicken considerably.

2) Kay, but it just doesn't look good on TV and comes comes off as a lack of attention to detail.

3) I just think the second episode was a considerable drop in quality and consistency from the first, and it soured my opinion a bit. Again, two episodes in, my impressions might change as we go.

4) Hard disagree. I was a staunch FO1/2 guy, I hated Elder Scrolls (Morrowind and Oblivion) and I was very much in the No Mutants Allowed camp when Bethsoft bought Fallout. I refused to play FO3 when it launched. Fast forward some time and I personally love FO3 (Bethsoft's best game to date, wrote a review on it in the PC Gaming forum) and while I have my issues with 4 I think it's a fantastic game. Also enjoyed the hell out of Skyrim. So I can see passed my biases with some effort.

That said, Bethsoft's Fallout is (obviously) a different animal than Black Isle (or Obsidian's) Fallout. Thus far, Bethsoft has left the Mojave wasteland alone and kept its stories to its own stomping grounds off on the Eastern Seaboard. The two worlds remain largely separated by the vast irradiated day glow of the mid-west. There was an arc that the Mojave was following, that I am not sure Bethsoft understands or is interested in pursuing. Shady Sands from FO1 becomes the NCR in FO2, and the NCR in FO2 become one of the primary factions opposing Cesar's legions in FO:NV...

Anyhow, once again, two episodes in. We'll see how this goes.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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1) It has been an issue with the Bethsoft Fallouts, a core quest that should be time sensitive but instead you go running off completing goofy side quests instead. In 3 you leave the vault looking for Dad, in 4 you are looking for your son. I get the show might have taken this approach tongue firmly in cheek but my first reaction was "you gotta be shitting me". Again, two episodes in so I concede the main plot may thicken considerably.
Even 'time sensitive' has always been relatively moronic in the FO series. FO1 gave you exactly 150 days from walking out of the front door to save the vault. Did the overseer seriously wait until they had just over 3mo of water before sending someone outside for the very first time? The water chip had been broken for years iirc. Did everyone die at the same time? Why was only one hero sent out? If you sent out half the vault, the remainder (probably children and elderly) could live for at least a year with appropriate rationing.
 

GodisanAtheist

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Even 'time sensitive' has always been relatively moronic in the FO series. FO1 gave you exactly 150 days from walking out of the front door to save the vault. Did the overseer seriously wait until they had just over 3mo of water before sending someone outside for the very first time? The water chip had been broken for years iirc. Did everyone die at the same time? Why was only one hero sent out? If you sent out half the vault, the remainder (probably children and elderly) could live for at least a year with appropriate rationing.

- Given how horrific the world outside the Vault was, I didn't take much umbrage with the conditions in the first game. Keeping the broken chip a secret for as long as possible, hoping to quietly fix the issue, assigning too few resources to resolving the issue... all sounds perfectly believable from a poor leadership perspective (ask anyone working a corpo job how they know).

Even then, once the water chip is recovered, the main quest pivots to protecting the Vault from a merciless wasteland and the Master's army, and that is more open ended.
 
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eldorado99

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We're halfway through it, we're definitely enjoying it so far and it is a lot better show than I was expecting. I am also a little bitter about the Bethesda Fallouts. Though 3 was solid.
 
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I watched season 1 of the series.
That was fun.

I also bought the game fallout 3 on a steam discount offer.
The game may seem static to many, especially young people used to modern console and pc games.

For me, i am happy the game is so static. It is very exhausting, gaming these days.
 
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Ajay

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I had a ton of fun with FO4. The key, after my first play, was using mods. The mods really extended the fun I was having.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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- Given how horrific the world outside the Vault was, I didn't take much umbrage with the conditions in the first game. Keeping the broken chip a secret for as long as possible, hoping to quietly fix the issue, assigning too few resources to resolving the issue... all sounds perfectly believable from a poor leadership perspective (ask anyone working a corpo job how they know).

Even then, once the water chip is recovered, the main quest pivots to protecting the Vault from a merciless wasteland and the Master's army, and that is more open ended.
Maybe so, but at some point the complaints about 'time insensitivity' is just complaints about side-questing and RPGs in general. Don't get me wrong, it's not very realistic, but I did appreciate Sephiroth waiting to try to end the world while I spent 6 months raising chocobos, delving for ancient materia, completing quest chains for optional characters, and mastering games at the fair.
 
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