So our first long national nightmare was a few years long in the 70s

tweaker2

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I'm positive it was bell bottom pants and platform shoes and just maybe but not so sure that it was the Vietnam War because it really wasn't such a big deal. /s
 

Thump553

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Possibly disco-Saturday Night Fever was released in 1977 but then again the whole disco thing didn't last more than a couple of years.

Stagflation perhaps?

Wasn't VIetnam-the USA had been heavily involved in it since at least 1965 and it wrapped up in the mid-seventies. Bell bottoms were OK/irrelevant and platform shoes just plain irrelevant.

Nixon's GOP's New South which converted all dixiecrats to GOP perhaps? Before that no white in the South voted GOP because of Lincoln/Civil War.

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The most fun had at a disco event was:

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Did you know most of the anti-disco hysteria was at least partially organized by white supremacists and were often blatantly homophobic and racist? It was arguably the progenitor for Gamergate which was basically the exact fucking same thing, just applied to modern 2010s pop culture.

Wanted to clarify some. I'm not talking about Disco Demolition night specifically (which there's a lot of discussion about what even really went on, and what fueled it, motivations of those involved, etc). Both instances (anti-disco sentiment and GamerGate) those agitators saw opportunity to exploit general societal unrest and disillusionment, especially amongst younger people, and whip it into a frenzy by focusing it on things that are both mundane but also very important to those people (but larger society generally kinda shrugs at), such that it made it easy to get them to act out with regards to it, while the rest of society was like "huh?" since it didn't seem to be anything worth giving much of a shit about. Also, I'd have to delve into it as if you look this up some, so much of the discourse focuses on Disco Demolition night which was far from the only situation. There was a podcast I listened to that detailed how the anti-disco stuff got co-opted by white supremacists and general racists and bigots (straight white dudes that started getting angry that their girlfriends liked going out dancing to disco with black dudes and gay dudes). I want to say there was a situation in Cleveland or Cincinnati that was organized by a white supremacist and there were white supremacist flyers and other shit handed out.

There was a documentary on Netflix about the Veecks (father owned the White Sox at the time, and his son was partially responsible for the promotion that culminated in the Disco Demolition night) that was mildly interesting. Honestly with how fairly insignificant in the overall tapestry of history Disco Demolition night turned out to be, it was interesting how profoundly it affected the guy and he deeply regretted it, especially once he learned of the larger stuff going on.

But there's a reason I push back hard on all the white supremacist shit in gaming, be it PC Master Race, and the like, because it didn't have to be done out of malice for it to still contribute to helping spread white supremacist ideology. White supremacists and other right wing (really extremists in general) are often good about creeping in by exploiting small things to radicalize people and they knowingly exploit situations where larger society gives them easy/freebies for worming in.
 
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FelixDeCat

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Overall, the 1970s sucked in some ways but were a simpler time to live in. Your perspective was limited to the region you lived in if you were not well traveled. That was the neat thing about life prior to the homogenization of America and other parts of the world.

Let Disco Stu fill you in on the rest:

 

sdifox

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I would have considered WWII a bigger nightmare than whatever op is suggesting.
 

BonzaiDuck

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Watergate.

There was more trouble underlying Watergate than many people know. It linked vaguely to the CIA's involvement in the overthrow of Allende in Chile, which was supercharged by the Nixon Whitehouse. The same people who were burglarizing Watergate had burglarized Daniel Elsberg's psychiatrist, as well as the Washington DC offices of Orlando Letelier -- exiled finance minister under Allende. Letelier, his American secretary Ronnie Moffit and her husband were blown up by a car bomb -- assassinated -- in Sheridan Circle in Washington -- September, 1976, as I remember. The burglars had apparently obtained information from Letelier's desk, which led to the soccer-stadium "disappearance" of people detained by the Pinochet regime.

Twenty years later during the Clinton administration, Janet Reno was pursuing an investigation in Chile of people -- Americans -- who had been killed by Pinochet, and part of this was done at the urging of the Moffit family. As soon as Dubya Bush was elected, all of that effort was shut down.

Watergate was only a nightmare to people who were keen on its implications. The rest of us just watched it unravel on the TV.

Republicans who were cerebrally challenged just assumed that Watergate was a "persecution" of Nixon, and they continued to hold that assumption in their heads -- probably up to the point of Trump's two impeachments.

What do I think? Use the Space Force! Deport the GOP to their home galaxy!
 
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Watergate.

There was more trouble underlying Watergate than many people know. It linked vaguely to the CIA's involvement in the overthrow of Allende in Chile, which was supercharged by the Nixon Whitehouse. The same people who were burglarizing Watergate had burglarized Daniel Elsberg's psychiatrist, as well as the Washington DC offices of Orlando Letelier -- exiled finance minister under Allende. Letelier, his American secretary Ronnie Moffit and her husband were blown up by a car bomb -- assassinated -- in Sheridan Circle in Washington -- September, 1976, as I remember. The burglars had apparently obtained information from Letelier's desk, which led to the soccer-stadium "disappearance" of people detained by the Pinochet regime.

Twenty years later during the Clinton administration, Janet Reno was pursuing an investigation in Chile of people -- Americans -- who had been killed by Pinochet, and part of this was done at the urging of the Moffit family. As soon as Dubya Bush was elected, all of that effort was shut down.

Watergate was only a nightmare to people who were keen on its implications. The rest of us just watched it unravel on the TV.

Republicans who were cerebrally challenged just assumed that Watergate was a "persecution" of Nixon, and they continued to hold that assumption in their heads -- probably up to the point of Trump's two impeachments.

What do I think? Use the Space Force! Deport the GOP to their home galaxy!
I would settle for the appropriate prison terms for any and all of them who participated in the Jan 6 Republican attempt to overthrow the duly elected President of the United States, especially those who hatched the plot, facilitated it from positions within the government especially in the House and the Senate and continue to do so today.
 
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