Thanks Biden! No More Noncompete Agreements

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NCAs were actually a great idea to help protect companies from employees who sold their loyalty to the highest bidder.

I guess they will have to devise another method of protection.
Companies can always protect their commercial secrets with other things, like NDAs.

And screw companies on this front - they show no loyalty to their employees, why should employees show loyalty to them?
 

balloonshark

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My last doctor worked at a place that made him sign a non-compete. When he left, he couldn't restart his practice for at least one year.
 

brycejones

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Companies can always protect their commercial secrets with other things, like NDAs.

And screw companies on this front - they show no loyalty to their employees, why should employees show loyalty to them?
This is even worse than asking employees to show loyalty, it's forced servitude or you can't work in your field. Fuck that shit. Capitalism demands labor have the freedom to move. But then again I'm not shocked by Felix's dislike for actual capitalism.
 
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Companies can always protect their commercial secrets with other things, like NDAs.

And screw companies on this front - they show no loyalty to their employees, why should employees show loyalty to them?
Came here to pretty much say the above.
To me it appears the vast majority of these agreements are for employees who have little knowledge of Uber Secret Business Plans.
 

sactoking

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IANAL but skipping the 562 pages of preamble and reading the 2 or so pages of actual regulation has prompted a question: does the FTC have oversight of public/municipal employers? If yes, then my state's ethics law on jumping ship from a regulatory body to a regulated entity looks to be gone, assuming the rule holds up to the inevitable legal challenges.
 
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If I’m not mistaken goddamn Jersey Mike’s had a non compete clause as if assembling a hoagie is some sort of trade secret.
Non compete clauses are extremely restricted in Mass, however I have signed them in various sales positions. Point is like Jerseys Mikes their business “secrets” aren’t that secret it’s stuff every competitor and every business does.
While I totally understand I cannot take a client list with me when I leave, I do build relationships with some people I have done business with and some even know me outside the office wether in person or on Facebook of whatever. I am still waiting for an explanation as to why I cannot tell someone I know I have started a job at a new place.
 

Thump553

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IANAL but skipping the 562 pages of preamble and reading the 2 or so pages of actual regulation has prompted a question: does the FTC have oversight of public/municipal employers? If yes, then my state's ethics law on jumping ship from a regulatory body to a regulated entity looks to be gone, assuming the rule holds up to the inevitable legal challenges.
That's not a noncompete agreement. I assume you aren't permanently barred from working for a regulated entity but are barred for x months from your employment as a regulator. Otherwise the "regulated" will control the regulators by buying out the personnel bothering them.

I certainly hope that sort of restriction stays in place-otherwise our regulators are pretty much going to be lackies of the regulated industries. Don't lose faith though-if your issue ever reaches this Supreme Court, well they have never met any form of corruption that they won't permit.
 
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kage69

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Good riddance, another bad idea suffers a well deserved demise. Good job Joe. Now make wage theft something that gets business owners tossed into jail over. There's been some headway recently with restitution, but it's still rampant. Needs to stamped out, like polio. Shouldn't take years of litigation just to get back an average of $1,100. Visiting foreign workers need more protection too. Not paying internationals their last check at the end of their stint because employer knows when they have to fly home; that is definitely a thing in NE ski towns I'm sorry to say.

Corporations have this strange fixation on being entitled to fuck over employees, past and present. Feels like America is starting to come around, is saying 'enough of this crap.' I still can't believe the UAW not only won in Tennessee, but it wasn't even close. 73% of the vote, in a red state. lol

Evangelical alt reich donor class is sweatin. Their nominee, a mentally ill rapist and Russian asset, is about to go to prison. Meanwhile Joe and the Dems are bringing in truckloads of election money. Those traditional points of privileged advantage are disappearing, one by one. Why just the other day I saw the poors had the audacity to demand an end to legacy admissions, and they just won't stop bitching about "living wages" and "affordable housing." Friggin commies.
 
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sactoking

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That's not a noncompete agreement. I assume you aren't permanently barred from working for a regulated entity but are barred for x months from your employment as a regulator. Otherwise the "regulated" will control the regulators by buying out the personnel bothering them.

I certainly hope that sort of restriction stays in place-otherwise our regulators are pretty much going to be lackies of the regulated industries. Don't lose faith though-if your issue ever reaches this Supreme Court, well they have never met any form of corruption that they won't permit.
It's a 12 month prohibition. But the interesting thing is the final rule essentially defines a non-compete agreement as something that prevents a worker from being employed by another person when the worker's first employment ends. It's actually super generic language. That's what lead to my thought, the state law isn't technically a non-compete under the typical understanding but it does seem to fit the definition under the final rule.
 
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FelixDeCat

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Free market for goods but not the labor that creates it?

Huh?
It's not that simple. If you start a company and hire talent they don't get to just take your idea and compete against you right away. That's bullchit. Thus the NCA was created.

The Biden administration is a horriblely short sighted vote buying group desperate to stay on power.
 
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It's not that simple. If you start a company and hire talent they don't get to just take your idea and compete against you right away. That's bullchit. Thus the NCA was created.

The Biden administration is a horriblely short sighted vote buying group desperate to stay on power.
What idea would that be?
 

repoman0

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It's not that simple. If you start a company and hire talent they don't get to just take your idea and compete against you right away. That's bullchit. Thus the NCA was created.

The Biden administration is a horriblely short sighted vote buying group desperate to stay on power.
It is that simple actually. Ideas are already protected by patents. Employees own their minds and the skills contained within.

Leave it to the RWNJs to argue for corporate ownership of workers’ economic freedom.
 
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It is that simple actually. Ideas are already protected by patents. Employees own their minds and the skills contained within.

Leave it to the RWNJs to argue for corporate ownership of workers’ economic freedom.
Felix yearns for the world described in Max Barry's book, Jennifer Government. Everything is ultra privatized, you take the last name of your employer, and only people who can afford it can pay for the government to investigate stuff. And if you want protection, you can open a contract with The Police or the NRA (both private paramilitary groups).
 
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