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Pens1566

Lifer
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If he loses the election (and there isn't a more competent cheat/coup to put him in) it won't matter. He'll be ditched by GOP supporters as fast as they swiveled onto him from Jeb, Cruz and the others in 2016. He'll spend his last years completely irrelevant. All the righties will say how they "never really liked that guy."

He's no spring chicken. This is the last rodeo for him. I wonder if lingering on free for years with no spotlight on him might not be the worst punishment he can imagine.

I'm not so sure they dump him. The entire party apparatus is built around him and his ilk. Hell, the national committee has become a family affair. The "rising stars" of the party have all morphed into wanna-be Trump clones. I don't think it'll die with him. Literally or figuratively.
 

manly

Lifer
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I think it's more likely he dies before all the legal proceedings/appeals wrap up.

Either would be acceptable.
Barring heart disease or cancer, life spans in the U.S. are very long for the upper middle class and above. His dad Fred Trump lived to a ripe old age, so who knows how much time he's got left on the clock.

Samuel Alito is so full of shit the courtroom must smell like a sewer.

Alito went as far as to suggest that denying ex-presidents immunity would discourage peaceful transfers of power, because outgoing presidents who lost hotly contested elections would not want to depart peacefully if they were concerned they’d be prosecuted by their political rival.

Yes, let's give the outgoing president full immunity to fuck shit up and even execute a coup; because otherwise, he would be inclined to fuck shit up for fear of retribution.
 

emperus

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Trump's attorney basically saying a President assassinating his political rival would be an immune official act perfectly put the cap on where we are as a country.

 

fskimospy

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Barring heart disease or cancer, life spans in the U.S. are very long for the upper middle class and above. His dad Fred Trump lived to a ripe old age, so who knows how much time he's got left on the clock.

Samuel Alito is so full of shit the courtroom must smell like a sewer.



Yes, let's give the outgoing president full immunity to fuck shit up and even execute a coup; because otherwise, he would be inclined to fuck shit up for fear of retribution.
That was an amazing statement. If presidents aren’t legally immune for attempting a coup they might…attempt a coup.

You know what I think would make people more likely to attempt a coup? Making them immune from consequences for it!
 

K1052

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There are a few people I could watch be eaten alive by carnivorous ants while I kick back and suck down a Mai Tai and Alito in the top three for sure. Truly an irredeemable miserable rat bastard who only lives to torture the country.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
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There are a few people I could watch be eaten alive by carnivorous ants while I kick back and suck down a Mai Tai and Alito in the top three for sure. Truly an irredeemable miserable rat bastard who only lives to torture the country.
Just a few? You are way too tolerant to evil
 
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"is him not being President in 2024. "


I can absolutely, positively gohrohntee that.

Now ... '25? That may be a crap shoot.
 

ivwshane

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To play devils advocate I think the conservative justices are trying to draw the line between presidents who are doing illegal acts out of necessity or due to circumstances that requires a president to act versus presidents that are committing illegal acts for personal reasons.

For example; let’s say the potus ordered the killing of 200 Americans on American soil. How many of you would say he should be immune from any charges? Probably none of us. Now let’s say the potus made such an order because those people were on a plane that was hijacked and appeared to be headed to a major population center where the potential of thousands of people could be killed. How many would say they should be immune from prosecution for such an order? I’m guessing most of would be.

So there appears to be a line or requirement to invoke such immunity.

That being said, under the circumstances Trump faced there was absolutely zero obligation that he needed to create a fake elector scheme or to overthrow a democratic election, so even under the weakest of presidential duty tests, trumps actions would fail to meet those tests.
 

eelw

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But that’s just it, outside of ACB, the other 5 avoided talking about the orange monkey completely.
 
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