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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    Yeah, I'm wrong. Was going by memory, but my memory was faulty. No idea where the notion came from.
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    Golden Cove client and server appear completely different in die shots, but Raptor Cove and Golden Cove server are indistinguishable. Don't think you can find any Raptor Lake where the AVX-512 isn't fused off.
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    Well, it's new silicon. Took the server variant Golden Cove cores from Sapphire Rapids, called the Raptor Cove, and improved the e-core implementation a bit.
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    News AMD 1Q2024 Earnings

    There are innumerable other explanations.
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    I generally agree, but I also think eventually you reach a point where a sufficient deficit in ST just makes any advantage in MT irrelevant. If a product gets 0.9x ST/1.2x MT, that's viable. But if a product gets 0.66x ST/1.66 MT, that's a really touch sell tbh. I'd take 8 Zen1 cores over 4...
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    It doesn't exist in large part because there aren't any good components for it. The main draw for STH in a Mac Studio type form factor is you can include gobs of unified memory for AI workloads.
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    The analysis *really* depends on how AMD decides to construct the thing. Strix Point suggests the existence of an 8c Zen5c CCX (assuming its 4+8 config isn't all implemented on one big, shared CCX). It could be that for Strix Halo, there's, for example, an 8 core Zen5c CCX sharing the same die...
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    I think the only way it's possibly true is if Fire Range isn't reheated Granite Ridge, as Dragon Range is reheated Raphael.
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    I very, very much doubt that. What's the basis for the claim?
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    It should have around 3x the bandwidth. That's an assumption, but probably a safe one. Strix Point is 4+8, so 8+8 makes sense for Halo. 16+0 would be a waste of power and die space. But, bear in mind AMD traditionally sacrifices a lot of stuff on the alter of getting parts ready sooner. I...
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    Lots of variables. Halo obviously wins all bandwidth bound tasks. Monolithic improves latency but otoh the whole memory subsystem is likely geared towards bandwidth at the expense of latency. I'm assuming Halo is 8 Zen5 + 8 Zen5c, so in that case 9950X obviously wins all embarrassingly parallel...
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    They lose big on bandwidth but win big on capacity.
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    Discussion Should MLID be considered a legitimate source

    Good response. I think there's a phenomenon that when someone is not all that deep, but is sufficiently wide, and especially if they are wider than you are, you err towards giving yellow flags the benefit of the doubt. And, when the alternative is someone like RGT who throws a dozen red flags a...
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    Discussion Should MLID be considered a legitimate source

    Why does he get so many interviews and collaborations with legit tech people? Can't they smell the fakeness?
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    Discussion Should MLID be considered a legitimate source

    It wouldn't be entertaining if the fakes were actually good, or they put in a solid effort to appear authoritative. The whole point of the trap is that it's easy to avoid.
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    Discussion Should MLID be considered a legitimate source

    I've defended him before. He has had some legit and important leaks, but this is bad. Very sloppy journalism. Hard to say whether his hit-rate will go up or down after this. He might become more diligent, yet at the same time legit sources may be less likely to contact him now that his image is...
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    The issue with the Terrascale gen was less about the volume play, and more about using a mid-range die as their high end. Keep everything the same, but add a 4970 as a halo card, which thanks to AMD's monumental architectural advantage would have blown GT200 out of the water, and that gen would...
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    Question Raptor Lake - Official Thread

    That didn't work out very well for Rocket Lake.
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    On one hand, AMD prefers to be a bit conservative. On the other hand, there's always someone making outlandish claims on any future product for attention. I assume the truth is somewhere in-between.
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    Actually, let me expand on this. The odds of any hype train being realized in an environment where rather unexciting internal projections are dismissed as sandbagging and hyper-conservatism, and where whispers of development problems and missed targets are starting to materialize, is effectively...
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    I hope so too, of course. But if I had to put money on it either way, it would have to go on the side of the hype train derailing, as it almost always does.
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    More MLID. Claims that Z5 is still strong, but not as strong as originally intended due to bugs. Reasserts he considers the 30%+ people dead wrong. Well, he was first out the gate with Z5 delay, and generally speaking hype trains are ultimately derailed far more often than they are realized.
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    A Mac Pro/Mini form factor with a reasonable GPU + mountains of memory would have an interesting niche.
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    I believe that frequency and voltage being equal, the dense cores do consume less power, but I think that's all based on transistor count, distances, and maybe process, rather than anything architectural.
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    Discussion RDNA4 + CDNA3 Architectures Thread

    I think they're dropping the ball a bit on marketing (It is AMD, after all). Even if AMD doesn't think it will be important, they should hammer on the fact that they are beating Nvidia with a much more general approach. They hint at this a bit by comparing to both tensor and CUDA flops, but...
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    Discussion RDNA4 + CDNA3 Architectures Thread

    It's missing the Mi300X/H100 comparison chart. Might be missing other slides.
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    Discussion RDNA4 + CDNA3 Architectures Thread

    What's the hard part then?
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    Discussion RDNA4 + CDNA3 Architectures Thread

    It would be right in line with AMD's history of self destructive GPU business strategies. G80 wasn't the beginning of the end for AMD's aspirations of graphics leadership, RV770 was. AMD needed a R600/G80 moment, and could have had it just one generation after G80, but despite a far superior...
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    Question Qualcomm's first Nuvia based SoC - Hamoa

    So, here's an issue: This sounds exactly like your "I have insider info" voice, and it just makes your entire persona seem unlikely. I'm willing to entertain the idea, at least until disproven, that you might have confidential information regarding AMD server tech, AMD in general, or server...
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    Question Qualcomm's first Nuvia based SoC - Hamoa

    Chasing high clocks costs a huge amount of die space. Look at Zen4 vs. Zen4c.
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    Question Qualcomm's first Nuvia based SoC - Hamoa

    Or maybe optimizing for power first, IPC second-ish, and frequency last-ish just tends to get you to a better place than when you try to do it the other way around.
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    Question Qualcomm's first Nuvia based SoC - Hamoa

    Certainly no more than the usual we see from everyone else.
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    Anyway, I suppose it's possible Adroc only knows of Turin-D and there's some other bottleneck there that makes the SMT yield look bad, but if you look at the full context of the whole SMT discussion back then he's clearly claiming that the yield is way down (and Kepler makes similar claims).
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