Still a compromise that the owner of the cheaper GPU does not need to make and that is the problem.
If they were good enough for their tiers they would not require the user to make more compromises than lower tier offerings. Yet in some scenarios they do so clearly they have an unnecessary...
The claim from adroc has always been 1t spec int rate 2017.
This test looks to have been an all core blender test.
They are not the same.
Only when we have 1t spec int rate 2017 results will we be know if the claim was accurate or not.
Businesses won't switch to nucs. Laptops are great all in one devices that make hybrid working a lot easier. Nucs don't solve anything at all and create a host of problems.
People will turn settings down obviously. The issue is that in case like TLOU at 1440p a 3060 12GB owner will need to make fewer compromises to get 'playable' fps than the 3060Ti 8GB owner will need to make or in something like Halo Infinite the 3060 12GB won't suffer from missing textures where...
Reviewers are part of the marketing wing, if they did not provide a net positive return the vendors would not spend money on it full stop. They do so clearly vendors get a benefit.
When it comes to economics if vendors cannot offer an attractive product at certain price points they are better...
AMD / NV / Intel and OEMs would not engage with reviewers if there was no benefit to their bottom line, it would be a waste of money.
$250+ is not ultra budget.
Great, looks like those buyers will have an N44 product to buy, 8GB is fine in a cheap enough part.
Once you are spending $250 or so 8GB just does not cut it anymore.
Does not need to be free, just needs to be a decent value proposition and I think we are at the point where having more than 8GB of VRAM can command a higher price than the cost of adding more VRAM once you want to charge $250 or more.
No, you have conflated things.
We have very specific Specint 1t core for core and IPC claims. Either they hold up or not, we are yet to see. Beyond that there have been no substantive claims made. There has been talk about how AMD have done IPC geomeans in the past (get the Specint result and...
That affects IPC how?
Clocks will determine final performance but IPC claims are not impacted by final clockspeeds.
For desktop Zen5 the thought is that final clocks are similar to Zen 4 clocks so performance and IPC are practically synonyms but if we are talking laptop or server then...
Specint 2017 1t shouldn't be impacted by power constraints being a single threaded test.
It does not matter if Specint is a good showing Vs the geomean, the claim cites a specific benchmark suite with a specific thread count. It is on that basis alone it should be judged. If the Specint uplift...
What is to cherry pick?
The claim is very specific in that it refers to Specint 2017 1t performance.
Either it hits the claimed figure or it does not, there is no wiggle room on it.
It's 8GB in 2024. That gives it a ceiling regardless of performance when not at the VRAM limit because more and more titles have performance or IQ issues with just 8GB.
If performance is 4060Ti like then I think AMD could get better margin just by giving it more VRAM.
Intel had a massive headstart in architecture, node and OEM support. It should have been impossible for AMD to catch up let alone surpass Intel on what looks to be all 3 fronts. They have done so through Intel utterly screwing up on multiple sides and by AMD taking a leaf out of NVs book and...
It is all speculation until products launch.
Adroc may state his claims in a very matter of fact way but since we are not privy to the data he is using for those claims it remains speculation.
Until products launch it is all wild speculation. There is insufficient information from which to...
Z2 Ultra Extreme XTX would make just as much sense at this point.
People moan about new things then later realise they actually had something good and regret moaning about it.
Indeed. I know some people don't like it but the truth is there is a lot of information to encode when it comes to mobile SKUs so it is practically impossible to come up with a scheme that keeps OEMs happy and also gives the consumer useful information from just the product name that does not...
It gives less information. Condensing a lot of attributes into a relatively simple name is always a trade off and I think the Year - Tier - Arch - Feature Isolation - TDP bracket is a decent compromise that informs end users while keeping OEMs happy by having a digit they can increment year on year.
Different Zens work best for different use cases. If Zen 5 takes up more power to feed those bigger cores then in a thin and light you might be better off with something older in that specific TDP envelope. Look at the Steam Deck vs the Rog Ally or Legion GO. 4c8t Zen 2 + 8CU RDNA 2 is roughly...
It is less informative.
Sure replace R9 with AI9 if you really want to tout the AI stuff and sure put the HX at the front before the numbers but 170 means nothing. Give it a few gens and you won't have a clue what generation of Zen is inside the chip by the naming convention which is exactly...
Desktop does not have to account for the same number of variations as laptop for different power envelopes or different chassis designs so a simple naming scheme is easy in desktop Vs mobile.
The 7520u is probably the biggest issue. Tbh it should just be called the 7325u because it is just a clockspeed bump over the 7320u. Is it really any worse than say the 6700XT being faster than the 7600XT? I mean 7600 is the bigger number right?
Obviously with the GPU naming scheme we know the...
Nothing needs fixing. Those who care enough to look it up will know what they are looking at. Those that don't are probably basing their buying decision on what the sales rep is pushing on them in their budget.
I also find it is only an issue in theory, in reality something like a 7520 is in a...
It is rumoured to have a 128bit GDDR6 bus. That means 8GB or 16GB unless you cut the bus.
8GB has a ceiling price which if N44 is less than is fine but if it does perform between the 6700XT and 7700XT (so 4060Ti ISH) then AMD can probably up the price by more than the cost of the VRAM.
A cut...
It is price sensitive with 8GB.
For N44 a 96bit 12GB part would probably be received far better than a 128bit 8GB part in the $250-$300 range and for 1080p I don't think the lower bandwidth will be that important Vs having more VRAM to make stuff like TLOU and Ratchet and Clank play better.
I can see devs using gen AI in house to help generate non mainline NPC dialogue to make the world feel a bit more alive and diverse. Obviously that will be in house and the game itself will have the responses hard coded to avoid any PR issues.
As for the dibble can it be any worse than 'arrow...
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