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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    Pareto applied to purchasing?
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    Discussion RDNA4 + CDNA3 Architectures Thread

    True. I think they tried to raise average margins, badly. Not by accident the shakeup in RTG followed, so we should have a return to AMD norms.
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    Discussion RDNA4 + CDNA3 Architectures Thread

    It works the opposite way. X % performance increase costs X+ % price.
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    Discussion RDNA4 + CDNA3 Architectures Thread

    This has been AMD almost forever. I always thought that they designed for the cut 2nd tier product with the unavoidable defects in fabrication and then used the perfect die as a margin-vacuuming product.
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    Discussion RDNA4 + CDNA3 Architectures Thread

    If the 8500 XT is $300, then what are the other prices, the 8600 XT & 8700 XT? In the 8700 XT case, with double the ram and ~ double the GPU production cost, and then we have the 8700 XTX? These should be priced as a family, not in isolation.
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    8GB VRAM not enough (and 10 / 12)

    True. Hah, even that glorified 60FPS is a relic of the old CRT monitors which itself is derived from the North American NTSC TV refresh rate standard, itself based on the USA's 60Hz AC power standard. The interested should check out the OLD anandtech video card reviews for some sanity check on...
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    It's great to see the friendly banter. So much different than some other fora.
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    News AMD 1Q2024 Earnings

    Well,,,,,,,,,,, it's fabricated knowledge after all, so be cautious. Could. Not. Resist. :D
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    Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    Come on now. Don't you realize that Intel is throwing out buzzwords everywhere about everything.
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    Discussion Leading Edge Foundry Node advances (TSMC, Samsung Foundry, Intel)

    Nvidia as mentioned is definitely one. Pre AI boom, their gaming GPUs fabbed at Samsung was the bulk of both revenue and profits.
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    Discussion RDNA4 + CDNA3 Architectures Thread

    Everything with N44 & N48 screams cheap, but I guess the deaf can't hear anyhow and keep high pricing as inevitable. We''ll see soon enough.
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    Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    Bolded, do have some firm info on this? According to the SA article, this tech is being researched for quite a long time and not an Intel exclusive, though they might have a unique breakthrough. Can we be certain that Intel is not doing the whole 10nm, overreaching, have to return to...
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    Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    High NA should only be used for the first steps in the fabrication process. As you progress up the die layers, you can use previous cutting edge machines that will be cheaper to operate. Rinse & repeat for the successor to high NA, displacing everything another step. In other words, using High...
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    Discussion RDNA4 + CDNA3 Architectures Thread

    Man, that's an extremely disturbing graphic. Nuff said.
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    Discussion Speculation: Zen 4 (EPYC 4 "Genoa", Ryzen 7000, etc.)

    Go with the flow. It'll have quad layer 3D-Vcache. 512MB for the win.
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    Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    You probably don't mean this, but it reads as if this packaging deficit arose accidentally. Atrocious planning is what we're seeing. I for one would like to know how this could happen in such a Corp, as Intel, and be accepted so easily.
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    8GB VRAM not enough (and 10 / 12)

    Yep. It's what I imagine talking to an alien would be like. Apparently too few shared experiences to communicate. Too many ???????????????????
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    Question Speculation: RDNA3 + CDNA2 Architectures Thread

    Nope.
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    Discussion RDNA4 + CDNA3 Architectures Thread

    Now this post is definitely not getting shown.
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    8GB VRAM not enough (and 10 / 12)

    I suggest a thread named "8GB vram IS enough and anyone wanting more is just dumb". After all, if one can get a good to very good experience with 8GB, then we should have this for all except, maybe, the ultra end 24GB xx90 models. 10GB, 12GB, 16GB, 20GB? Pfft, away with them.
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    Discussion RDNA4 + CDNA3 Architectures Thread

    What could have been?
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    Hang on, isn't Strix also Zen 5?
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    News Intel 1Q24 Earnings Report

    Then you haven't being paying attention. As is said, there are many ways to skin a cat.
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    I know, but not all, it seems.
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    Discussion RDNA4 + CDNA3 Architectures Thread

    1st gen chiplets (good), then 2nd gen (tricky). My understanding is the compute with chiplets is the issue.
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    If 50 Tops is obligatory for Win 12, then short MSFT.
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    8GB VRAM not enough (and 10 / 12)

    Well, I guess this distillates your entire posting record in this thread. Check 2 posts down.
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    Discussion Leading Edge Foundry Node advances (TSMC, Samsung Foundry, Intel)

    Really? Then what's this, "Now comes the interesting part, the upcoming N3E node is slightly more dense than the original N3."
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    Question are video card prices headed down yet?

    I will argue yes. The high margin that Nvidia is obtaining on AI GPUs is the exact reason why "(Meta, Amazon, OpenAI, Microsoft, Google, etc)" can pursue independent AI chip development. In other words, Nvidia chasing after margin seeds the conditions that destroy margin. The end result will be...
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    Face the truth, you've become and old geezer. :p Welcome. By the way, Linux is interesting, I use it now for (1) daily use machine + (2) my files with ZFS on an offline machine.
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    Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    Anyone waiting for AI generated content to be used as the majority of training data for new models? A feedback loop of colossal problems.
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    Discussion RDNA4 + CDNA3 Architectures Thread

    Back from vacation?
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    Discussion RDNA4 + CDNA3 Architectures Thread

    I have to ask. Any idea as to price range? N44 & N48?
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    8GB VRAM not enough (and 10 / 12)

    Maybe a snip of poetry will help this thread. "Oh, East is East, and West is West, and never the twain shall meet,"
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    Discussion Leading Edge Foundry Node advances (TSMC, Samsung Foundry, Intel)

    Cost. Check the number of masking steps needed.
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    Discussion Leading Edge Foundry Node advances (TSMC, Samsung Foundry, Intel)

    (4) He didn't talk about the heat dissipation issue, but I think CPUs will have trouble hitting Fmax due to this. Fmax is whatever it is due to material and design choices. It might be lower vs without BSPD, but that IS the Fmax for those designs.
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    Discussion Leading Edge Foundry Node advances (TSMC, Samsung Foundry, Intel)

    Intel panicked and reserved wafers due to fears of losing access to the latest and greatest. Now it's surpassed and they're stuck. In spite of all the bombastic talk, by their actions you will know them. You, especially, should take note of this.
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    It seems you know the values, based on your claim that N4P is much less efficient that N3. Please provide the details that led you to such claims.
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    Discussion Leading Edge Foundry Node advances (TSMC, Samsung Foundry, Intel)

    It could be true for Intel. Maybe their costs were way above TSMC and they have room to drop more. Throughput & yield of Fabs contribute a lot to transistor costs.
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    Discussion Leading Edge Foundry Node advances (TSMC, Samsung Foundry, Intel)

    Then why did you jump in and partially support the fantastical claim that I was commenting on, which was, "Now they're moving en masse to N3E which will hit volume only late next year". Nowhere did I claim production is not now ramping. I'm confused.
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