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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    SPEC INT vs FP. from what we know 128/256bit FP doesn't see any increase in execution resources AMD is "only" going end to end 512bit , so most of that 20% would be frontend. Bodes well for INT where prefetch/predict/frontend + int execution all see uplifts.
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    So why did Biden suddenly take a page from Trump’s playbook with tariffs?

    I didn't realise trump invented tariffs. The world is deglobalising a little bit , your going to see degrees of walls put up against your threats/adversaries.
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    Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

    I shouldn't find this as funny as I do
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    we know it isn't 8 wide decode , it does something in decode but we don't know exactly what, two fetch blocks is all that is listed. is that parallel, used for branches etc . I think the only things we can say for certain are from this slide...
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    Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

    i have never seen the P-39 described as a bad aircraft. it had a 1300mi combat range and really high ceiling and most overlooked centre mounted machine guns which made if very effective in air to air combat. P-39 is the unsung hero of the pacific campaign.
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    yeah it's funny as , im probably buy a 6 core Zen 5 and its not because i cant afford 16 core.... its cuz im a tight A$$ and value value above almost everything.
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    Yeah this guys had this odd agenda for months. It's like claiming all desktop CPUs that don't have avx512 are irrelevant and worthless.
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    Elon Musk now owns 9.2% of twitter...update.. will soon be the sole owner as Board of Directors accepts his purchase offer

    Yeah Elon does enough shitty things all by himself that to me any misrepresentation of things musk companies do just waters down the valid criticism.
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    like Nar der.... but its called a diminishing return curve , other wise we would have 6gb cache processors right now.......
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    if you have bigger caches( at even given point in cache hierarchy ) and your prefetchers and predictors aren't any different/better then all you have is a larger victim cache. If the working set/hot loop /etc fits within the existing victim cache size then your going to see next to zero benefit...
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    Intel processors crashing Unreal engine games (and others)

    No one metric in isolation ever matters, people presenting it this way are either dishonest or ignorant.
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    Yes but your going to see that covered by the prefetch and load parts of the breakdown diagram. But that will only be a component of those sections.
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    Amd has far more dry powder in terms of architectural resource consumption and they are about to spend it , amd kept up with Intel while doing it with a sizablely smaller core.
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    Why do you pick something from the last 8 years..... two full new uarch , Zen2 having far more Tock in its "Tick" then intel ever did back in its ticktock days. Then there is Zen4 with what ~25% performance over Zen3. Then you have Lisa's words just days ago, so your saying she is lying / miss...
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    What's Moores law go to do with anything, like do you even have the slightest clue what your talking about ? if its so obvious why don't you give us a detailed micro uarch run down of how Zen5 is going to improve performance so badly while spending so big on uarch resources. Like what are the...
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    Discussion RDNA4 + CDNA3 Architectures Thread

    The problem is games , AAA doesnt know how to make good games anymore , keep trying to live service model and fail. if i was sony i would be trying to back a heap of AA style games wait for one to get huge and then force PSN account login...........
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    No one cares about naming scheme, othwise Intel would be toast with names like i7-1068NG7.
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    Question Speculation: RDNA3 + CDNA2 Architectures Thread

    GT with VR , only reason , but man is it a good one!
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    The brits are in for a rough ride

    I hate to say it but this play 100% worked for conservative government in Australia so much so no one touches it despite the UNHCR going to town because it's political suicide.
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    Elon Musk now owns 9.2% of twitter...update.. will soon be the sole owner as Board of Directors accepts his purchase offer

    I saw a Jim kellar interview the other day, he didn't think fsd is a problem for ai, but he did talk about needing a raw level of flops ( well above what's in a Tesla) and if you have less flops you need significantly better software. Given he worked for Tesla probably some insight in that view...
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    Depends , if the working set is large it can have a big impact. Like if your a guy who when you go CTL alt f9 in excel your waiting for minutes then it probably will make a noticeable difference.
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    IF we are just talking CPU ignoring GPU its super workload specific , generally expect 0-5% more ipc. there will be outliers , gaming or specific games / engines being one of those.
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    culled for time frame or cost/throughput/defect rate or both?
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    i wonder if @Fjodor2001 will hold himself to the same standards around how AMD is doomed* if they don't give him elevenity million Cores* for the same price as 8 zen1 cores. *dramatization added by itsmydamnation
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    NPU are nothing but MADD engines with operation/ memory /io aligned to GEMM. You could probably run AI on a ati 9700 pro , very small model with terrible performance but you could probably run it.
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    You are quite contrary aren't you. The single biggest x86 apu with the core that will probably be the single biggest gen on gen perf jump over current market leader doesnt meet the definition of being talked about as changing computing then literally nothing in the last 30 years has either......
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    So what your saying is shutdown the forums because nothing in my lifetime Meets that definition. Everything is incremental improvement. Probably only the Pentium pro and even that is use case specific
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    adroc said that there was supposed to be several different configurations using info-R (?) but all but halo got cut , so the plan was reuse but ended up just being specific to halo.
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    Why does the United States spend money on Europe’s security?

    watching completely random YouTube video on UK economic performance. think this pretty much answers the thread:
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    why pick something arbitrary like dispatch. AMD ran wider retire then dispatch because it was more of a bottleneck for example. Look at the entire core , we are generally looking at massively big ROB's , something big on the decode side ( we are still guessing ) , significantly wider int...
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    Why does the United States spend money on Europe’s security?

    Because it is in America's interest to have Europe under its nuclear umbrella. Military projection Diplomatic projection Economic projection Are all super tightly coupled. The US is a massive export economy, it's pretty obvious.....
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    What music are you listening to now?

    this is without a doubt the most beautiful chaotic song ever
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    They did do what I said , that's why they had dedicated branch execution units. I'm also not 100% sure on some people's thinking on zen3, AMD have had Mop and op fusion for along time, I wouldn't be so quick to assume that mops and op fusion Didn't exist in zen 1/2 because they existed as far...
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    Yes that's is true of any Core , because it takes 1000's of engineering hours per 0.1% of performance , so it is truly a function of time. You have to bank what you have got and ship at some time. This is true of any engineering exercise.
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    But they didn't increase the PRF read/write port count which is the fundamental limit of execution concurrency within the Core. Which is why i say Zen1->4 are fundamentally the same execution width , With the Work in Zen3 they made the average port usage closer to the Peak.
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    Still yet to see one convincing argument that the core isn't 40 points of IPC. Amd did multiple 20ish cores that are all fundamentally the same size and a core that is massively bigger gets what? People are literally betting on worse then bulldozer execution. Bulldozer cores were significantly...
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    so explain why a FPU based workload , corelates with integer based workloads to the point of it invalidating a consistent rumour of integer performance.
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    Europe and USA are addicted to cheap Chinese goods.

    a horrendously racist country . with a aging population and a collapsed birth rate for the last 40 years. When even the CCP's numbers are horrific you know just how bad it is. Yep im calling it :)
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