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    Question Incredible Apple M4 benchmarks...

    Object detection makes almost no difference in the comparison between Raptor Lake / Zen 4 / M3. They're all on par. M4 object detection is twice the score as all of them. So now it's an issue because now it makes a difference and it is implemented using an even less applicable extension (where...
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    Question Incredible Apple M4 benchmarks...

    Read the thread again it's all been said. Zen 4 is still only on par with its competition, Raptor Lake, in that subtest. Both using 256 bit vector operations. SVL for M4 is 128 bits and the ZA size is 128x128 bits and it can do that far fewer cycles. So it ends up twice the score of its...
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    Discussion RDNA4 + CDNA3 Architectures Thread

    At times like this it's best not to be offended. Read it as charitably as one can: most people don't want gamer laptops.
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    Question Incredible Apple M4 benchmarks...

    In closed form & in exchange for access to their patches over Wine. Meanwhile Mesa has Microsoft contributors and has for years. Apple's not really changing at all. Use wherever possible, give back as little as possible and avoid GPL like the plague. The other American megacorps at least do play...
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    Question Incredible Apple M4 benchmarks...

    Oh I misunderstood you. In any case, Apple too can offer difference license terms to different people. We can't, but CodeWeavers can integrate it.
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    News Intel GPUs - Battlemage rumoured cancelled (again)

    I read they had to agree to a 2 year no-cost maintenance contract and took a large loss on the contract, overall. But maybe it was just hearsay.
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    News Intel GPUs - Battlemage rumoured cancelled (again)

    That may be bad performance but worse: how many billion did they lose on that?
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    Question Incredible Apple M4 benchmarks...

    No, that's definitely allowed - all the LGPL and GPL components have their source available.
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    Question Speculation: RDNA3 + CDNA2 Architectures Thread

    People keep saying Radeon hasn't been relevant in a decade or more (on certain sites). But wasn't RDNA2 competitive? Are they gaslighting me or was I wrong and it wasn't worth considering? The only reason I ended up with a RTX 3080 10GB at the time (Nov 2020) was because it was in stock first, I...
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    Question Incredible Apple M4 benchmarks...

    Intel had SPEC results invalidated by overly specific compiler optimizations earlier this very year. So it's an ongoing problem.
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    Question Incredible Apple M4 benchmarks...

    License disclosure indicates they are in fact using some of DXVK's code. They could open source it to show to what extent they are using it but they won't because Apple. Edit: It could be that it's entirely in the (L)GPL Wine components but since they bundle it all together who knows. But even...
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    Question Incredible Apple M4 benchmarks...

    Unironically some engineers like doing it. But otherwise not much. If you scroll back to my original post on the matter: Apple is more closed than pretty much all their peers in both hardware and software. And often to the detriment of consumers some of who then bend over backward defending...
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    Question Incredible Apple M4 benchmarks...

    Check the license notifications.
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    Question Incredible Apple M4 benchmarks...

    :rolleyes: Who else would want the source code but developers?
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    Question Incredible Apple M4 benchmarks...

    Which is based on and includes code from DXVK. Yet again Apple taking advantage of permissive license morons and not distributing their derivative source code (of course they have no legal obligation, but simple non-American ethics follows a take and give back model).
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    Question Incredible Apple M4 benchmarks...

    In the same way Amazon/Microsoft/Google aren't chip companies and yet they have talked about some of their chips before.
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    Question Incredible Apple M4 benchmarks...

    Yeah, it's not open to another API. But merges an implementation of Vulkan to mesa for everyone to use. Ok buddy.
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    Question Incredible Apple M4 benchmarks...

    Not the best defence of Apple. Vulkan implementations do exist on Windows (not much due to Microsoft but they still do create extensions for it and even have their own wrapper targeting D3D12 upstreamed in Mesa). There's no Vulkan implementation on MacOS except wrappers like MoltenVK (which...
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    Question Incredible Apple M4 benchmarks...

    None of the Intel chips people are comparing it to implement AMX anyway.
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    Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    If by wider we mean many available execution units then Goldmont (etc) sounds like a good match for SMT with all its execution units. But it deliberately doesn't have it. Are the execution units too limited? Or is the dual decoder approach enough to keep execution units busy without needing SMT?
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    Question Incredible Apple M4 benchmarks...

    What an ugly (and very American) implication. That "profitable" = "good" but... I digress.
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    Question Incredible Apple M4 benchmarks...

    Nope, that is Microsoft's job. If a company doesn't release drivers for their operating system that's their choice. It isn't like Qualcomm where Qualcomm wants their chips to run Microsoft software. Apple doesn't care about being Windows compatible (anymore).
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    Question Incredible Apple M4 benchmarks...

    Windows (on ARM) actually specifically targets/supports the Apple Mx CPUs. But the problem is no drivers for the rest of the SoC. In any case, it's not like the Boot camp days (which I miss).
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    Future of AMD's GPU business.

    I'm pretty confident AMD can figure out how to waste more area on an optical flow accelerator, bigger ray tracing accelerators, and more 8 bit matrix multipliers. But they'll do it for semi-custom customers first and then PC gamers will get the hand-me-downs.
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    Question Incredible Apple M4 benchmarks...

    This composite ST score says it is 50% faster than M2. For some reason I don't think that's representative of the performance difference. Apple themselves chose to say it's 50% faster in multi-threaded (Affinity Photo 2 benchmark) for a reason.
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    Discussion Apple Silicon SoC thread

    When you're Apple's scale you get to do that. Dual stack OLED was first developed by and is manufactured by the Koreans. Yet if remembered at all it'll be as Apple's Tandem OLED. That's just how it goes.
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    AMD 7900GRE general release

    AMD had a 3 Golden Rabbits for China last year - 6750 GRE 10GB, 6750 GRE 12GB and 7900 GRE. The 6750 GREs are basically rebranded 6700 and 6700 XT. Not worth a thread.
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    Discussion Apple Silicon SoC thread

    They increased clock rate 25% and also L1 cycles by 25% over 2 years. It may (possibly!) be related. But it's the same access time isn't it? Also they must have made changes elsewhere to compensate. IPC isn't dropping. Apple says power isn't increasing. Pursuing high clock rate is a good thing...
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    Really? On the same chip or another? Seems huge. People say SRAM scaling stalled on N5/N3. And if I'm eyeballing it correctly that'd be like 70% of a current CCD's size just for the 64MB L3.
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    Question What uses are there for dual CPU systems?

    If you do rendering or dozens of VMs and containers? Minmaxing. Used 2P server boards have been able to offer more MT throughput per $. Though I haven't looked at eBay prices lately. Can't think of another reason in the era when 56/64/96 core processors are marketed to prosumers. 1 CPU is now...
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    Intel processors crashing Unreal engine games (and others)

    It was partially my fault I brought up Turin after he mentioned power draw because I'm pretty sure Intel won't be backing off from power draw there as they need to do elsewhere. But if Arrow Lake doesn't crash, has an only-P-core SKU with better than 9800X3D gaming performance and lower power...
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    Discussion Apple Silicon SoC thread

    Don't give Intel any kudos for that. It was almost entirely through ignoring power. This is not a luxury the Apple tablet/MBA SoC has with their hatred of fans (and I appreciate it).
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    Clearly not. Stop tilting at windmills and read it again.
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    Discussion Apple Silicon SoC thread

    I find AVX 512's flexibility to operate on data types larger than 16 bits make it more applicable than SME. It's more akin to SVE (which no one is deducting?).
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    Discussion Apple Silicon SoC thread

    Isn't 'restructuring' just code for partial pipeline lengthing? Or am I misunderstanding the need to continue the stage in the next cycle.
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    And where did I say that? Here is what AMD says about it: "The core complex unit (CCX) consists of 8 Zen 3 cores, each with a 0.5MB private L2 cache, and a 32MB shared L3 cache. Increasing this from 4 cores and 16MB L3 in the prior generation provides additional performance uplift, in addition...
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    Intel processors crashing Unreal engine games (and others)

    Turin has how many cores with that 25% more TDP? I can't remember if it was 128 cores or 192 cores total. In either case they feel pressured to piggyback on 500W Granite Rapids thermal solutions. But back on topic: Intel 13/14900K are still returning incorrect results and crashing the most...
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    Wow, you've proved AMD's comparison between Zen 2 and Zen 3 wrong using a small subset of tests comparing Zen 4 to Zen 4 X3D. Honestly I'm not sure what the point is here other than obfuscation. More cache is good for some games and that's why Zen 3 was well above the geomean AMD showed for...
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    Intel processors crashing Unreal engine games (and others)

    You think they're going over 230W? For the X3D parts too?
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