A lot of the struggle came from a suboptimal Bios/software. MSI made big improvements with Bios 1.06: https://www.msi.com/news/detail/The-MSI-Claw-Gaming-Handheld-Achieves-Significant-Gaming-Performance-Improvements-Through-New-BIOS-and-GPU-Drivers--143544
Meanwhile Bios 1.08 further improves...
Intel started Linux driver work last month on Battlemage dGPU, why should they do this if it wouldn't come. We might hear something at Computex about Battlemage.
I refer to the performance prejection from some people, they say it's roughly what we get. And the new leak says 5.5 Ghz with maybe less than 12% ST improvement which is in the same ballpark as the projected 9-13% from the early Intel projection. Maybe they projected with 5.5 Ghz from the beginning.
It's a N3B node for the highest clocked parts. 20A 6+8 will be clocked lower.
The early performance projection slide from igorslab doesn't seem that wrong what Exist and some others implied, in this case MT gains should be higher over Raptor Lake refresh. Geekbench ST 9-13% and MT 16-20% in this.
It'a paper launch this year, AMD never confirmed they will hard launch Strix Point this year. It's telling they just say H2 because it usually means Q4. And you can add 3-6 months from a launch until real volume is available from AMD. Shipping in 2024 including paper launch, that's it. It's like...
Won't happen. AMD Korea said launch at the end of the year and availability is expected in the early first half of next year. Think about Hawk Point, it will be a repeat.
Lunar Lake is much more power efficient. And sure there is more than just an ALU number increase per EU from 8 to 16 units. It was similar in the first Battlemage dGPU entries with 160 and 192 VEs.
Should be from here: https://wccftech.com/intel-lunar-lake-core-ultra-200-cpus-over-100-ai-tops-3x-npu-performance/
Or here: https://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.php/news/hardware/prozessoren/63363-lunar-lake-intel-nennt-100-tops-an-ai-rechenleistung.html
It's not really high resolution though.
Panther Lake comes with 4+8+4 cores from what we know and it comes for the UPH segment. It also comes with 3 tiles unlike Lunar Lake with only 1 tile. They need something better for ARL-H with a faster NPU and the first tile design wasn't great.
A mid 2025 release for Panther Lake would be surprising, this the first time they talked about a release and usually there is at least 1 year between a generation. Or maybe he refers to Clearwater Forest and wasn't specific about it.
Core size numbers from here. Skymont grows big time unlike Lion Cove versus MTL on Intel 4.
Lunar Lake:
P core: 4.55mm²
E core cluster: 8,1mm²
E core (without L2): 1.52mm²
MTL:
P: 5,33mm²
E cluster: 5,9mm²
E core only: 1,04mm²
ADL:
P: 7,12mm²
E cluster: 8,3mm²
E core only: 1,59mm²
From here
Lion Cove appears slightly smaller than Redwood Cove but this is a comparison with Intel 4 to TSMC N3B. Skymont size on the other side increased ~50% with a more dense node.
From the Lunar Lake die picture it clearly looks like Skymont grow exponentially compared to Lion Cove. The 4 core Skymont cluster including L2 is closer to 2 Lion Cove cores in this. With Gracemont it was closer to 1 Golden Cove core.
Same Witcher 3 performance at 30W versus 45W on the previous model with Raptor Lake. Notebookcheck should use something with a more realistic load for the CPU power test like Cinebench where we have also have benchmarks results to compare. I mean who plays with Prime95, we don't even have...
What's the score of a 253W 14900K, is it more than 35.8K? You have to assume reviewers will be using the new baseline profile as default and it's Asus only afaik.
MTL lost like 5% in ST IPC over Raptor Lake I think, no clue how big this penalty grows for MC. Lunar Lake should fix it given that the IMC moves back into the compute tile.
The only credible rumor was a 3 tile design xino mentioned. Tigerick was wrong in the beginning, however the newer/corrected info he posted sounds legit because it's more detailed.
To me it's a summary of leaks combined from other people what Prakhmar posted, most of the stuff he told wasn't...
Too bad Ghostsonplanets is wrong with his tile prediction. Just because LNL integrate Soc into the compute tile doesn't mean Intel will do the same with their regular mobile lineup after Arrow Lake. Why should they do this if they are 18A volume limited. Panther Lake is not a MX chip, it's UPH...
It's not clear if they refer to performance from IPC and clock speed combined. If it's IPC then I would agree SNC level isn't great when Gracemont already was basically on par with Skylake, at least on integer workloads. And seems like the Skymont cluster in Lunar Lake is quite a bit bigger now...
This is what xino told last month about PTL and I trust him. That's why I asked you about the PCD tile you didn't mention.
I've heard the same, at least Sunny told PTL offers a 12 Xe core GPU. And I trust him as well.
I wouldn't say that. Lunar Lake gets 4 LPE cores in a sense they are moved out from the ringbus, means they can shut it down when only the LPE cores are active. They could repeat it for Panther Lake and also add 8 E cores into the ringbus because PTL comes for UPH segment. Of course we won't see...
Not if it's a Meteor Lake like launch in December. 4.9 Ghz is surprisingly high, I expected fmax something between 4-4.5 Ghz. Take note @SpudLobby
N3B can't be that bad, it's not a bad sign for ARL-S too. Maybe they can reach 5 Ghz with the production models.
What other sources? The max frequency on this page is factual meaningless, you can see this on basically every other chip there. With your logic we could apply this to every other past generation which of course is nonsense. Furthermore we have seen a Sisoft entry from Lunar Lake last year with...
The detected max frequency on this page is a pretty much meaningless value there. Have a look to Rapor Lake, Alder Lake, Arrow Lake-S, Tigerlake and so on, they are mostly below 3000 Mhz. Dit it mean they only boosted to 3 Ghz in real products? Certainly not. We don't know what it means, is it a...
Now disable 4 cores from AMD and see what happens. With only 4 LNC cores without SMT 50% faster than 2+8 MTL-U? That's 4 threads vs 12 threads! +50% is basically MTL-H 6+8 40-50W level in Cinebench. I say no chance. What LNC IPC increase do they need to make this happen, something like 50%? Why...
They are separated from the P-cores ringbus, it's a separate cluster it seems. In that sense it's a low power version of the E-cores. Sure they are even more power optimized than Crestmont. But this won't mean they are disabled under load. With only 4 P cores LNL needs the power of the 4 Skymont...
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