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    Question [TechDeals] FX-8300 retirement day

    I had a plain 8320 early on and it was a gloriously leaky cheap. You could switch off turbo, undervolt and take the multiplier high enough to run 4100MHz all core, 24/7, steady as a rock. Getting to 4500MHz was easy with added voltage but for 4700 I needed 1.525V my Nepton 280L AIO to run full...
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    Question [TechDeals] FX-8300 retirement day

    Yeah, it didn't take long for FX users to realize that you needed beefy VRMs to run/oc the 8 cores. I made two FX systems back then and for the first one I used what I considered the overall most reliable 970 board (at least of the early offerings,I do not know if in the later years better ones...
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    Question Raptor Lake - Official Thread

    Has this been posted yet?
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    Discussion Speculation: Zen 4 (EPYC 4 "Genoa", Ryzen 7000, etc.)

    Decent launch but I’ll just wait for the X3D units, I know I’ll regret it if I don’t. I am really not sold on what Intel is doing with E-cores at all. I feel it is a huge waste of die era that could have been dedicated for extra cores and maybe cache. Makes me wonder what foveros will bring to...
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    Discussion Speculation: Zen 4 (EPYC 4 "Genoa", Ryzen 7000, etc.)

    I tried to run the Mankind Divided benchmark at 1080p on my 5900X/6800XT system since I have the game installed already at all ultra (including 8xMSAA) but it returned a variance of 48-87 fps (dirty, all sorts of background processes running) so I won’t even try to guestimate the settings they...
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    Question Zen 4 builders thread

    Depends on general performance and price. I’d rather get a 7900X3D but I wouldn’t rule out the 8 core.
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    Question Zen 4 builders thread

    I jumped on Zen 1 (1800X), Zen 2(3900X) and Zen 3(5900X) day 1. But this time I am waiting for X3D units. I still do a fair bit of PC gaming and it seems to me that ever since modern boost algorithms improved so much that core OC brings diminishing returns, the performance seeking interest has...
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    Discussion Speculation: Zen 4 (EPYC 4 "Genoa", Ryzen 7000, etc.)

    Obviously consumption still matters a great deal,how much heat are you dumping in your room while running this is what I want to hear, not tmax. If boost algo allows this it might not be that bad, but If the AIO gets saturated and the cpu is throttling then yeah we have a problem.
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    Discussion Speculation: Zen 4 (EPYC 4 "Genoa", Ryzen 7000, etc.)

    While I fully agree than AMD needs a better value proposal in the very low end I have to point out that comparing prices to make global conclusions is tricky. Take Finland for example. A 12600K can be had for about 310, a 12700F at 410 a 5600X at about 230 and 5800X3D at 500. So it seems to me...
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    Discussion Speculation: Zen 4 (EPYC 4 "Genoa", Ryzen 7000, etc.)

    Zen 1/X370 was a unique situation. AMD debuted a brand new architecture using a brand new chipset, in what was essentially its first real, large volume attempt with AM4, for the first time using DDR4. It was a perfect storm for bugs and yet I was very lucky back then. With Crosshair VI hero...
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    Info 64MB V-Cache on 5XXX Zen3 Average +15% in Games

    No they are in line with historic TPU trends which typically overestimate Intel/nvidia over whatever amd has out. I recall when Vermeer was out, 5900X was typically trailing 10700k at 1080/1440p when the rest of reviewers had them reversed.
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    Info 64MB V-Cache on 5XXX Zen3 Average +15% in Games

    It was fairly common for CH6 board/Samsung b-die combo. In fact with these two I had 3200CL14 timings at launch day even, clearly outperforming all launch review gaming results.
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    Discussion Intel leading customer for TSMC 3nm?

    I do not have any insider info whatsoever. It is plausible that a combination of intel offering copious amounts of cash and TSMC looking for big profits short term direcly from a competing foundry, could outmaneuver AMD in the 3nm timeline. What I find ludicrous is TSMC prioritizing intel over...
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    Discussion AMD FSR vs Nvidia DLSS2.0 vs Temporal Super Resolution (TSR)

    Indeed Johan Andersson,then head honcho of frostbite was the driving force behind Mantle. He was extremely jaded with DX9/11 so he pitched the idea of a lower level,more efficient API to Intel,Nvidia and AMD. Only AMD reciprocated and the rest is history. In a sense Mantle didn't vanish, Vulkan...
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    Question intel plus nVIdia?

    I would argue that the number one reason for Apple ousting nvidia from their lineup is CUDA. Apple simply does not allow anything proprietary within their ecosystem, unless they control it themselves.
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    Question Jen Sung makes questionable decision? [RUMOR] NVidia tries to disable GPU mining?

    Haven't heard of them but this practice sounds like hoarding/scalping and not mining. And I have no idea why would annyone cheer for scalpers. Miners aren't trying to artificially choke the supply to profit from selling their cards. They absorb everything they can get their hands to create...
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    Question Jen Sung makes questionable decision? [RUMOR] NVidia tries to disable GPU mining?

    Your friends and anecdotes are a drop in the ocean, we are talking about miners that buy hundreds of cards and set farmers on an industrial scale in different countries across the globe. The gaming/prosumer GPU market as a whole is not being served. AMD had been bitten in the behind years ago...
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    Question Jen Sung makes questionable decision? [RUMOR] NVidia tries to disable GPU mining?

    Miners aren't consumers. They use GPUs as capital, to create monetary value. There is no consumer mining demand to be satisfied by the supply of cards. The more cards AMD and nvidia make,the more cards they will buy more or less because they profit off them. If this situation remains unchanged...
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    Question Did AMD stop making CPUs?

    You can do what europeans do and place an order. I haven't got a single hardware day one piece in the last 5 years that i did not have to wait weeks to receive.It most definitely is worse these days but i only had to place an order and wait. I ordered on day one a 5900X, a Strix 6800XT LC and a...
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    Question Speculation: RDNA3 + CDNA2 Architectures Thread

    Perhaps RDNA2 infinity cache was a testbed more than anything else.
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    Article nVidia Announces RTX 3060

    It doesn't matter, miners will snatch turing too.
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    Discussion Intel current and future Lakes & Rapids thread

    I bet it is better than the previous gen 8 core in gaming. Good product but in the same ballpark with what we have out there already it seems.
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    AMD Ryzen 5000 Builders Thread

    Try a different frequency, sometimes a CPU/board/RAM combo just doesn't like a particular clock.
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    Question Wait for 3080Ti or not?

    If I was dead set on nvidia I would definitely wait for it.
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    nVidia blocks Hardware Unboxed due to rasterization focus. Update: nVidia retracts.

    I recall nvidia focus people in various forums clearly stating their affiliation in their signatures. I also know posters doing this without declaring it. A characteristic example was in oc.net during the G-sync/freesync era. A specific user that had joined few months earlier, akin to a...
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    nVidia blocks Hardware Unboxed due to rasterization focus. Update: nVidia retracts.

    I guess they are so pro AMD that their Ryzen 5000 series review was one of the least favorable on the internet. Nonsense imho. HU guys are not the most technically proficient reviewers among their peers, they do the odd error here and there and they may have been too eager to throw elbows with...
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    AMD 6000 reviews thread

    Averages will flactuate depending on that games were tested but all in all,outside RT there is performance parity this round.
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    Question Speculation: RDNA2 + CDNA Architectures thread

    Not sure what you mean. Nvidia has to allocate a very large portion of its RTX gpu die for dedicated ray tracing, an area that would otherwise go for shaders that can execute traditional rasterization workloads. Of course they give up rasterization performance, there is no free lunch for anyone.
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    AMD 6000 reviews thread

    As I said this is your narrative. A card "wins" if it is largely faster than the competition. 3080 and 6800XT are trading blows and even on the same games it depends on the scene. Eg HU has 3080 faster at hitman 2 4k whereas TPU and GN have the 6800XT ahead. 3080 has a 4k edge on average but it...
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    AMD 6000 reviews thread

    There is a variance in the reviews depending on scene, CPU, RAM etc. There are titles that 6800XT matches or even beats the 3090 at 4k (.eg. Dirt 5, AC Valhalla) so stating "3080 wins at 4k" is more of a narrative you want to believe and not a fact. From where I am looking things, the 6800XT...
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    AMD Ryzen 5000 Builders Thread

    It's ok, Finns often get lumped together with the Scandinavian three (Danes,Swedes,Norwegians). The term you are looking for is "Nordics" and includes all 4 as well as Iceland. I ordered a 5900X right away from a big store over here (jimms.fi) that had day 1 availability but it took several...
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    ***OFFICIAL*** Ryzen 5000 / Zen 3 Launch Thread REVIEWS BEGIN PAGE 39

    There are a few outlier reviews out there gaming wise. Hardware unboxed for example. But rest assured, the tables have turned and it is the 720p and esports gaming that paints Ryzen 5000 in the best light. Valorant (especially) and CS:GO results are a straight up execution, not a fight. Brings...
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    Question Speculation: RDNA2 + CDNA Architectures thread

    Cyberpunk 2077 is nvidia locked. CDPR has been exclusively working with team green for more than 12 years.
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    AMD 6000 reviews thread

    Navi 22 should arrive in Q1 2021 too.
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    Question Speculation: RDNA2 + CDNA Architectures thread

    Which radeon chip was the ultimate fine wine example? Hawaii. Why? Because it shared architecture with PS4 and entered the market exactly at the same time (Q4 2013). A 290 was essentially a 2xPS4 GPU. The 6800XT shares architecture with PS5 and it enters the market exactly at the same time (Q4...
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    Question Speculation: RDNA2 + CDNA Architectures thread

    I still believe that the strategy of having a big chunk of the die dedicated to just RT and DLSS is not sustainable in the long run. It locks nvidia to big die chips and is detrimental to general rasterization performance. Especially with consoles going the RDNA2 way.
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    Question Speculation: RDNA2 + CDNA Architectures thread

    Not surprised with the lack of RT benchmarks yeah, literally all games that have it are nvidia sponsored. AMD needs to work on their studio RT relations.
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    Question Speculation: RDNA2 + CDNA Architectures thread

    So 6900XT is not AMD exclusive and reference only after all?
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    Question Speculation: RDNA2 + CDNA Architectures thread

    I am sure recommended specs for CP2077 are based on conventional graphics workloads. Also assuming that 1060 or Fury are required for 1080p/60fps max settings, 1440p/100fps+ will require a beefier GPU. Perhaps much beefier.
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    Question Intel Q3: Ouch

    The troubles of intel are expressed in the market in a very clear way. They are running out of people to sell Skylake to. In the datacenter the best customers have already upgraded to Skylake and some have gone from Skylake to better Skylake SKUs even. In order to (at least partially) reverse...
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