Nothing Ever Changes But The Dates And The Locations

[pmv]

Strikes me that this is the sort of story pro-gun folk like (I offer it as a gift to them - and out of curiosity as to what people think of it).

I still don't think it's worth the cost, not least as both of them were armed and both ended up being shot...would be better if it hadn't happened in the first place...would the guy have broken in and been so aggressive in the first place had he not been armed? But I suppose this is the sort of thing that gun ownership is supposed to be for...also I'm baffled why the writer felt the need to tell us what time it happened 'in UK time' - what does it add to the story to know that when it's 2am in Idaho it's 9am here?)

Woman, 85, shoots dead masked intruder while handcuffed to a chair in 'heroic act of self-preservation'

Christine Jenneiahn, who was at home with her disabled son at the time, was able to drag herself to a bedroom and retrieve her pistol after Derek Condon threatened to kill her.

news.sky.com

 

[eelw]

For everyone one of these cases, there’s going to be 50 where the disabled child plays with an improperly stored gun.

 

[fskimospy]

Strikes me that this is the sort of story pro-gun folk like (I offer it as a gift to them - and out of curiosity as to what people think of it).

I still don't think it's worth the cost, not least as both of them were armed and both ended up being shot...would be better if it hadn't happened in the first place...would the guy have broken in and been so aggressive in the first place had he not been armed? But I suppose this is the sort of thing that gun ownership is supposed to be for...also I'm baffled why the writer felt the need to tell us what time it happened 'in UK time' - what does it add to the story to know that when it's 2am in Idaho it's 9am here?)

Woman, 85, shoots dead masked intruder while handcuffed to a chair in 'heroic act of self-preservation'

Christine Jenneiahn, who was at home with her disabled son at the time, was able to drag herself to a bedroom and retrieve her pistol after Derek Condon threatened to kill her.

news.sky.com

The issue with gun ownership isn’t that guns are NEVER useful to protect your life, just that they make their owners more likely to die overall so they are a net negative if staying alive is your goal.

It is really a very simple facts vs. emotion argument. People feel in their gut that they are safer with a gun and so facts be damned.

 

[pmv]

For everyone one of these cases, there’s going to be 50 where the disabled child plays with an improperly stored gun.

Yeah, wouldn't argue otherwise. Can't say I'm hugely sorry that a guy who would assault and threaten an 85-year-old woman ended up dead, but I wouldn't argue an occasional case balances out all the dead children. And I also wonder if he'd have broken in in the first place had he not himself been armed.

 

[Pohemi]

Middle school shooting(?) in Mount Horeb, WI. 14yo was killed before ever entering the school.

Mount Horeb is s small town of mainly Scandanavian and German immigrant offspring. It's a "quaint" little town that even has a Scandanavian troll theme. I'd be surprised to even see this in Madison which is 30 miles east, but in Mount Horeb? That's even more unexpected. Just shows it can happen anywhere that the wrong people have access to firearms.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Just shows it can happen anywhere that the wrong people have access to firearms.

This being America, that becomes "anyone and everyone"
(I know I'm mostly preaching to the choir and beating a dead horse...)