Kind reminder that the screen is supposed to be replacement for the world around you, not your eyes. You will still experience your "native" motion and focus blur.sometimes it would be neat to be able to experience what other people see, your words are very contradictory to my experience. Like for instance calling things pin sharp while in motion, this is not how I experience the world at all, the more things move the more blurry they are, forget gaming, just look around the world, things move and detail becomes less distinct. You want to see detail you need less movement and preferably some magnification.
Screen tearing and general motion quality are indeed something each human being experiences differently. For example, I've always had a problem with low refresh tube displays: they would annoy me visually even before I knew refresh rates existed. Moving on towards the present, for many years I avoided scrolling though large documents on my phone, the blur of the screen would make me experience physical discomfort after a certain amount of exposure. That changed when I got my 120Hz screen phone, scrolling is now considerably less annoying.Same with screen tearing, its something that my brain conviently filter out for me to the point where I have never played a game where I could say that I noticed it. I have only ever seen it for myself in reviews with screenshots pointing it out. FPS is another thing that some people obsess over. I havent had an fps counter on in a game in well over a decade because everything looks totaly smooth to me.
sometimes it would be neat to be able to experience what other people see, your words are very contradictory to my experience. Like for instance calling things pin sharp while in motion, this is not how I experience the world at all, the more things move the more blurry they are, forget gaming, just look around the world, things move and detail becomes less distinct. You want to see detail you need less movement and preferably some magnification.
Typically whatever game options for AA that exist in all the games I have ever played have some sort of indicator for low to high, either numerical or descriptive, be it MSAA or whatever version they use. Regardless of the type of AA those artifacts that I said I notice disappear with usually a low to medium version of AA. Whatever other artifacts you see past that I simply dont notice those.
This isn't about motion blur caused by your eyes.
It's about the extra blur induced on monitors that you claimed was caused by AA.
MSAA doesn't, and DLDSR do NOT increase this kind of motion blur, and the screen is as sharp as it is without AA, but is just free of AA artifacts.
Do you play any modern games? Because modern AA doesn't have levels any more. TAA on/off, DLAA on/off, FXAA on/off is what modern AA is like. MSAA had levels, is pretty much gone, and didn't cause blur anyway.
TAA and others can still have levels (e.g., Hogwarts Legacy has TAA Low and TAA High) though I'm honestly not sure what the difference is whereas SSAA or MSAA the difference is either the rendering resolution or number of samples.
Fair enough, the TAA games I looked at, just have on/off.
Is TAA high blurrier than TAA Low?
This is true, the point I was trying to make with the real world comparison is that I dont understand how one describes something that one always experiences with some blur as pin sharp, it always makes me wonder how others are perceiving the world differently from me. If my eyes dont perceive two combined blur effects as weird or off then to me its a good place to "cheat" on creating my fake world if it frees up gpu resources for other things.Kind reminder that the screen is supposed to be replacement for the world around you, not your eyes. You will still experience your "native" motion and focus blur.
with tube monitors I needed a 85 hz refresh before I could not longer see the line banding or whatever you want to call it. From my very first LCD (It was one of the early benq 1600x1200 models) monitors onwards I have never seen a flicker in a screen again.Screen tearing and general motion quality are indeed something each human being experiences differently. For example, I've always had a problem with low refresh tube displays: they would annoy me visually even before I knew refresh rates existed. Moving on towards the present, for many years I avoided scrolling though large documents on my phone, the blur of the screen would make me experience physical discomfort after a certain amount of exposure. That changed when I got my 120Hz screen phone, scrolling is now considerably less annoying.
I am not saying higher fps isnt better, I suppose part of why fps seems so irrelevant to me is that I dont really play shooters. Most rpgs/mmos and even action rpgs tend to be designed with mechanics to alleviate the feeling of input lag with things like global cooldowns, longer combat animations and the like that make the twitch reactions less important. I game a lot less than now than I have in the past so I dont switch between games that frequently anymore but I usualy find the time it takes me to adjust to a new games overall timing to be a fast process. I have friends that have such a hard time with that they almost never want to try out new games.The most important reason we want high framerates in games (higher than 30 or 60) is latency related, games are built in such a way that higher FPS lower system reaction to user input. Our brain can usually adapt to lower framerate animation, but there is no substitute for system delay when it comes to controlling movement or aiming using a mouse. There is a world of difference between passively watching a 24 FPS movie and actively controlling an eyeball at 24 FPS, and this difference increases rapidly with resolution and eyeball count. That is why high refresh screens are optional for 2D displays and mandatory for 3D goggles, otherwise the user is bound to experience nausea even after minutes of simulation.
It seems reminiscent of entering duriels chamger from d2 but it can happen anywhere.The lag you experienced in D4 is an extreme form of what I'm describing above (although D4 also has network lag at times, but let's ignore that for now). You character seemed less responsive at times. This lag can be experienced in single player games even at higher FPS, albeit with less intensity as interactive frames reach 60 and go above.
I have always been attracted to more relaxed play in games, my mind tends to normally run on overdrove so I like a bit of a calmer play style to make playing games actually feel relaxing for me. Some of my annoyance to these topics I think stems from the overly strong hyperbole filled language so many people when talking about these topics.The preference for high FPS can also change over time as the user is subjected to a high refresh environment. Take someone used to play at 45-50 FPS and have them play at ~90 FPS on a VRR display. That was me when experiencing CP2077 after both GPU and monitor upgrades. The biggest difference was in reaction time, the way I was able to move the camera and my character in combat. In my first playthough of the game I was inclined to play stealth/sharpshooter/netrunner, all the builds that did not require fast motion response. With the new display I was more willing to experiment a fast moving submachine gun build, or even a melee one (not my cup of tea but you get the idea).
I said AA adds a blur effect to textures. Look at any AA correction method at the pixel level and perhaps you will be able to see what im talking about. You said AA makes the image sharper when things are moving. I said that I value detail when things are stopped and I zoom in vs detail while things are moving as my eyes blur moving images anyways.This isn't about motion blur caused by your eyes.
It's about the extra blur induced on monitors that you claimed was caused by AA.
MSAA doesn't, and DLDSR do NOT increase this kind of motion blur, and the screen is as sharp as it is without AA, but is just free of AA artifacts.
jedi survivor has 4 levels of AA, low, medium, high, and epic, D4 has low and high, those are the two newst games I have played. Jedi survior was where I played around with fsr to see what that looks like and the best quality FSR pretty much looks like what I would expect from an even higher quality level AA if they added it and as such would not be something I would ever turn on.Do you play any modern games? Because modern AA doesn't have levels any more. TAA on/off, DLAA on/off, FXAA on/off is what modern AA is like. MSAA had levels, is pretty much gone, and didn't cause blur anyway.
If you like a vaseline world. Everything is shiny.Max Payne Remixed With Path Tracing Will Blow You Away, Demo Available for Download
Max Payne Remixed is one of the best examples of RTX Remix Mods, adding Path Tracing to this classic title, and there is a demo to download.www.dsogaming.com
Max Payne looks stunning with RT.
If you like a vaseline world. Everything is shiny.
The irony is that Nvidia is just pushing people into delaying their upgrades with these extremely demanding technologies.But the fps drop is atrocious. Maybe RDNA4 can deliver playable fps? Or 5060 16GB in 2025.
Not impressive... RT need new engines not old or current
PT disable lamp?
1254 vs 57 FPS? Comedy gold. Path Tracing is 22 times slower than rasterization.
No wonder NV had to "emperor clothes" aye eye. Somehow they've convinced the world that upscaling a 2003 game on a $1200 4800 is a "feature"
Another abomination here:
As usual, surfaces become shiny marble. And they give Lara a cone of light and add torches to the walls which were never there, otherwise almost everything would be pitch black.
Maybe it's realistic lightning, but for eyes i'd prefer old, where i can see anything, not darkAnother abomination here:
Not impressive... RT need new engines not old or current
Grand Theft Auto San Andreas RTX Remix Is so Demanding It Barely Hits 60 FPS at 1440p on an RTX 4080
The Grand Theft Auto San Andreas RTX Remix path tracing mod makes the game so demanding it cannot hit 60 FPS at 1440p on a 4080wccftech.com
Looks better but not enough to get excited about it.