Discussion RTX 4090Ti Founder's Edition Cooler

GodisanAtheist

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God help us all if this is the future of cooling technology.

Leaks/stories are from several months apart so it seems like this is going to be the real deal launch cooler.
 

Mopetar

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I don't see the downside. Historically the reference cards have had substandard coolers for a variety of reasons.

For what this GPU is going to retail for, there had better be a beefy block with fabulous fans so I have a cool and quiet card.

It's not like SLI is still a thing where you need to try to cram two of these top cards into a case in order to get top-end performance.
 

gdansk

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The downsides are it won't fit in some cases
The entire SFF world will have to spend $300 on new cases for their latest screaming hotbox

Also it's hideous. The proportions are all wrong.
 
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APU_Fusion

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Water cooling seems viable choice even if to help with weight. Lord, look at that thing
 

Mopetar

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The downsides are it won't fit in some cases
The entire SFF world will have to spend $300 on new cases for their latest screaming hotbox

Also it's hideous. The proportions are all wrong.

How many people who are buying this don't already have a case that will fit some monstrosity of a GPU? Of those few who need a new case, how many are going to have serious problems or even qualms about $300 for a case after spending $2,000 or more on a GPU?

I'm sure there will be some third party designs that are 3-slot, never mind the exotic water cooling setups that the enthusiast market tends to use for high-end CPU/GPU builds.
 

gdansk

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How many people who are buying this don't already have a case that will fit some monstrosity of a GPU? Of those few who need a new case, how many are going to have serious problems or even qualms about $300 for a case after spending $2,000 or more on a GPU?

I'm sure there will be some third party designs that are 3-slot, never mind the exotic water cooling setups that the enthusiast market tends to use for high-end CPU/GPU builds.
I had to buy a new case for the 4090 already and it was annoying even if an inconsequential expense all things considered. I liked my old case. Still prefer it.

And in the SFF world that the new case must be 2L larger is annoying. Who puts an RTX 4090 Ti in a SFF build? If new cases are built with 4 PCIe slots they will. At some point it'll stop being small but who knows where that is.
 
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fleshconsumed

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LOL and here's me downclocking my 260W 6800XT because I hate how hot it makes my room feel after extended gaming.

Anyway, as impressive as it is, I'd be more impressed if nvidia cared just as much about value in the low to mid range as they do about apple'esqing their high end.
 

eek2121

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I don't see the downside. Historically the reference cards have had substandard coolers for a variety of reasons.

For what this GPU is going to retail for, there had better be a beefy block with fabulous fans so I have a cool and quiet card.

It's not like SLI is still a thing where you need to try to cram two of these top cards into a case in order to get top-end performance.
NVIDIA FE cards have much higher quality coolers than OEM variants. Not only are they the smallest, but they are the quietest.

If NVIDIA is making the cooler bigger, it means we are going to likely see 4 slot (or possibly more) heatsinks being the norm for the 4090ti when OEMs get their hands on it.

I really wish NVIDIA would focus on making these cards smaller. in another 5-10 years we’ll need a separate case just for our GPUs if this keeps up.
 

CP5670

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The regular 4090 AIB coolers are way overbuilt for those cards. They were actually intended for this card and dissipating 600W.
 

Heartbreaker

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Is one 12VHPWR connector enough? This thing looks like one of those GPU parody Memes where they keep making cards comically larger.

At this point, I think NVidia should just make a GPU that plugs into the wall with it's own PSU. Instead of plugging this monstrosity into a MB, it should have a slot to accept a Nuc Compute Element:

 

CP5670

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This was actually a thing with the old Voodoo5 6000. I'm surprised it never caught on. Probably they made some deal with the PSU companies so they could keep selling new PSUs.
 

KompuKare

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I guess they cannot admit that 12VHPWR may have any problems, so if this thing is 600W+ it may have to come with two of those. Are there any PSUs which natively actually have two of those?

A quick trip to the comparison sites says yes, these four:

Price? If you have to ask, it's out of your range! But still cheaper than a 4090 Ti!
 

DeathReborn

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I guess they cannot admit that 12VHPWR may have any problems, so if this thing is 600W+ it may have to come with two of those. Are there any PSUs which natively actually have two of those?

A quick trip to the comparison sites says yes, these four:

Price? If you have to ask, it's out of your range! But still cheaper than a 4090 Ti!
There's 7 in the UK, but for a 4090 Ti I'd expect 2000W to be the floor for power, in that territory they only have 16/18 8 Pin connectors, no 12VHPWR.
 
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CP5670

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The Corsair and Seasonic adapters use two PSU side connections, and the upper end ones have 6-8 of those connectors, so they should support this. There is actually one Galax 4090 model out there with two 16-pin plugs. The cards don't really benefit or clock higher with more power though.
 

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SteinFG

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Someone is trying to sell the cooler:

Not worth much unless there's a corresponding PCB coming with it. I want to see how NV put AD102 on a card not wider than 8 cm.
 

aigomorla

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Water cooling seems viable choice even if to help with weight. Lord, look at that thing
Problem tho is the way the ports are placed.
That means even with a waterblock you can not reduce the foot print on that gpu even with a custom PCI-E holder.
So you will need to wait for custom boards to come out unless you still want a 4 slot monstrosity with a 1 slot waterblock on it.

I want to see how NV put AD102 on a card not wider than 8 cm.

Any water cooled card will be that, regardless, unless it has that custom i/o port stacked on top of each other like the 4090ti pictures.

There are even AIB water cooled cards which are single slot or 1.5 slots, so about 2-5cm.
Only problem tho you need a lot of other hidden stuff for it.
 
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SteinFG

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Problem tho is the way the ports are placed.
That means even with a waterblock you can not reduce the foot print on that gpu even with a custom PCI-E holder.
So you will need to wait for custom boards to come out unless you still want a 4 slot monstrosity with a 1 slot waterblock on it.



Any water cooled card will be that, regardless, unless it has that custom i/o port stacked on top of each other like the 4090ti pictures.

There are even AIB water cooled cards which are single slot or 1.5 slots, so about 2-5cm.
Only problem tho you need a lot of other hidden stuff for it.
I'm not saying 8cm thick. I'm saying 8cm wide.
This Custom "titan" cooler has PCB parallel with the motherboard, so the PCB is just 80mm im one dimention
here it is compared to normal 4090 PCB
 

Heartbreaker

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The Saga continues on the Spinal Tap (this one goes to 11) of coolers. Turns out it had a hidden third fan:


 
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BFG10K

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A space heater in a briefcase:


And just think, a PCIe slot is expected to accommodate that...thing. Your PC gets fisted.
 
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aigomorla

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Anyone notice that heatsink has its own 12pin plug.
Jebus... needing a 600W connector just for the heatsink.
That has to be Nvidia Trolling.
 

SteinFG

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Anyone notice that heatsink has its own 12pin plug.
Jebus... needing a 600W connector just for the heatsink.
That has to be Nvidia Trolling.
Are you the one trolling us here 😁 it's just an extension cable. The pcb is rotated 90 degrees, so an extension is needed
 
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