Israel: We Are At War

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VRAMdemon

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Trump was told by his own Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, that Iran wasn’t building a nuclear weapon.

His response?

“I don’t care what she said. I think they were very close to having one.”

He doesn’t want proper intelligence. He wants war.

We’ve seen this movie before. Pretty soon MAGAs will start to love Dick Cheney again.

Since his parade sucked, he thinks he's getting another parade out of this. And if this "adventure" goes sideways Trump never heard of Iran or Bibi and "it wasn't my fault".
 
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K1052

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I wonder what sort of mine technology is in use these days. I doubt they would use conventional mines that can be more easily dealt with.

A wide range IIRC. The EM52s are probably the most problematic though.
 

VRAMdemon

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Trump: - ‘We Now Have Complete and Total Control’”

Reminds me of “mission accomplished”. They should land Trump on an aircraft carrier in a flight suit...if they can find one that big.

Some classic Trump tweets that aged well:

Oct 9, 2012 - "Now that Obama's poll numbers are in a tailspin - watch for him to launch a strike on Libya or Iran. He is desperate"

Sep 25, 2013 - "Remember what I previously said - Obama will someday attack Iran to show how tough he is"

Sep 16, 2013: - "I predict that President Obama will at some point attack Iran to save face"
 

Josh128

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You don’t shoot down MRBMs with the same missiles you shoot down artillery rockets.
Artillery rockets?! Every missile fired from Iran that reaches Israel is an MRBM, lol. Surely you dont actually believe Israel is short on defensive missiles?!

 

gorobei

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I wonder what sort of mine technology is in use these days. I doubt they would use conventional mines that can be more easily dealt with.
state of the art mines are just torpedoes with pre programmed modes and active remote control that lets the operator decide when to start looking for targets and which audio signature to target. passive mines are more or less frowned upon by the west as they could damage civilian ships.
 

K1052

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Artillery rockets?! Every missile fired from Iran that reaches Israel is an MRBM, lol. Surely you dont actually believe Israel is short on defensive missiles?!


When the war started Iran was thought to possess roughly 2000 missiles with range sufficient to reach Israel. Do I think the Israelis have stockpiled enough Arrow and David's Sling interceptors to handle all that? I do not. Easily like 5-6B worth of missiles that would take many years to accumulate. Which is why they are also getting help in the form of our THAAD and SM-6 magazines to assist in interception. The idea surely was that once they get air superiority they can hunt down the Iranian launchers and also damage the Iranian missile magazines so as to make transloading difficult, reducing their rate of fire and consequently the burn rate of interceptors.
 

brycejones

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Artillery rockets?! Every missile fired from Iran that reaches Israel is an MRBM, lol. Surely you dont actually believe Israel is short on defensive missiles?!

Look you weird person, you were arguing that $50K missiles were capable of shooting down MRBMs.

They are not. That is all I was saying. Fucking keep up with your own dumbass points.

But for shits and giggles how many defensive missiles capable of engaging MRBMs do you think Israel has?
 

VRAMdemon

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Josh128

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Look you weird person, you were arguing that $50K missiles were capable of shooting down MRBMs.

They are not. That is all I was saying. Fucking keep up with your own dumbass points.

But for shits and giggles how many defensive missiles capable of engaging MRBMs do you think Israel has?
Already turning to personal attacks? Typical political zealot. You Deep Blues are no better than MAGATs in that regard. Israel is not about to run out of missile defenses, period. Do what you must , its pointless to try to have civil dialogue with you, so I wont try.
 

brycejones

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Already turning to personal attacks? Typical political zealot. You Deep Blues are no better than MAGATs in that regard. Israel is not about to run out of missile defenses, period. Do what you must , its pointless to try to have civil dialogue with you, so I wont try.

You are really fucking weird. When told you don’t shoot down MRBMs with $50 missiles you get all aggressive demanding to know if I don’t think Israel has enough missiles. Your post above is just basic projection. I am not sure you understand what actual civil discussion is.

I have no idea how many missiles Israel has and you don’t seem to either. You trying to make it some kind of litmus test on political beliefs is again just weird.
 
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IronWing

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Now that Israel is decapitating Iran.
Who
Fills
The
Power void?

Who will be taking control of Iran's now?
(Check notes)
Israel is too small to hold any territory or do anything aside from small assassination missions and control the air.

What now?

What happens after the collapse of the Iranian government?

What bets do we have I out there for staged incident in the straight where a US asset provokes an Iranian gun boat into engagement?
Consistent US policy for decades has been to make the world safe for the House of Saud and its pet Wahhabi lunatics.
 
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amenx

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Running low ...

Israel is running low on defensive Arrow interceptors, according to a U.S. official, raising concern about the country’s ability to counter long-range ballistic missiles from Iran if the conflict isn’t resolved soon.

The U.S. has been aware of the capacity problems for months, the official said, and Washington has been augmenting Israel’s defenses with systems on the ground, at sea and in the air. Since the conflict escalated in June, the Pentagon has sent more missile defense assets into the region, and now there is concern about the U.S. burning through interceptors as well...

 

KMFJD

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another 50+ people killed and 200 wounded trying to get aid

 

Racan

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another 50+ people killed and 200 wounded trying to get aid

They’re hearding them like animals. Wait no. Animals are treated much better. Nobody’s hearding animals by shooting them.
 

K1052

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Israelis might be trying to off the Ayatollah in a bid to bring things to an end. Even if achieved I am dubious about success.

 
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