Israel: We Are At War

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pauldun170

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another 50+ people killed and 200 wounded trying to get aid

It's by design
Make them starve, leave (which they cant) or die.
That's the goal.
 

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KMFJD

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Running low ...

Israel is running low on defensive Arrow interceptors, according to a U.S. official, raising concern about the country’s ability to counter long-range ballistic missiles from Iran if the conflict isn’t resolved soon.

The U.S. has been aware of the capacity problems for months, the official said, and Washington has been augmenting Israel’s defenses with systems on the ground, at sea and in the air. Since the conflict escalated in June, the Pentagon has sent more missile defense assets into the region, and now there is concern about the U.S. burning through interceptors as well...

by israel's own admission they think Iran have around 1800 ballistic missiles left so who's going to run out first?
 

Thunder 57

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The Jerusalem Post's editorial board is calling for Iran's partition.


View attachment 125871

From the same article:

Khamenei loathes the US as well, possibly even more so than Israel

Anyone think they wouldn't give two shits about us if wek'd stay out of it?
 

Josh128

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I think we are going to see something big happen in the next couple days in this new war. A few possibilities:

1.) Ali Khamenei will be assassinated.
2.) Iran will brandish, threaten to fire, or actually fire, a nuclear weapon.
3.) An Iran proxy pull off something in Israel or the continental US.
4.) Israel will launch an all-out air assault on Tehran and other strategic targets.
 

you2

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I think we are going to see something big happen in the next couple days in this new war. A few possibilities:

1.) Ali Khamenei will be assassinated.
2.) Iran will brandish, threaten to fire, or actually fire, a nuclear weapon.
3.) An Iran proxy pull off something in Israel or the continental US.
4.) Israel will launch an all-out air assault on Tehran and other strategic targets.
For timing - i would track when the air craft carrier arrives that will likely trigger us entry (if they are going to enter).
 

linkgoron

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I think we are going to see something big happen in the next couple days in this new war. A few possibilities:

2.) Iran will brandish, threaten to fire, or actually fire, a nuclear weapon.
3.) An Iran proxy pull off something in Israel or the continental US.
Iran proxies have been mostly neutralized, except the Houthis and they're quite far away from Israel, and until now haven't really been that effective. Hezbollah has been effectively neutralized, and Syria's government has fallen.

I also don't think Iran has the tech for a nuclear weapon.
 

blankslate

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Trump said “ WE have secured the skies”

When did the US military get involved in this war?

Well according to Trump's tweets (or other social media posts) one might argue that Trump has been tacitly approving or even aiding (with intelligence information or Intelligence Agency cooperation) Israel's planning for the surprise attack on Iran for a little while now.
I would suggest that given Biden's han... um I mean aides Blinken and co. allowing Israel to keep receiving military aid in violation of the Leahy Law for a year prior to Trump's re-election; Biden has set the precedent for aiding Israel that Trump just followed dutifully according to Miriam Adelson's money's wishes.....


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ivwshane

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I’m confused, is the support we give Israel free or has maga deemed that money ok to not spend on Americans now?

Also, the irony of Israel calling for Iran to be split up.

It’s pretty obvious as to what’s going on. Israel is trying to bate Trump into backing a war against Iran, and no Trump isn’t aware of it, if he was he wouldn’t be able to keep his fat mouth shut.
 

K1052

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Iran proxies have been mostly neutralized, except the Houthis and they're quite far away from Israel, and until now haven't really been that effective. Hezbollah has been effectively neutralized, and Syria's government has fallen.

I also don't think Iran has the tech for a nuclear weapon.

Houthis good enough that the US drilled a billion dollars worth of munitions into the sand and realizing we were not really getting anywhere declared peace lol. Them holding shipping at risk in the Red Sea is a way simpler and easier deal than holding off the Israelis in a conventional state to state war. Houthi also do not have the problem of lots of people who want to hurt them stuck on the inside that are willing to help out the Mossad like the Iranians do which has been a huge liability for the regime.
 

linkgoron

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Houthis good enough that the US drilled a billion dollars worth of munitions into the sand and realizing we were not really getting anywhere declared peace lol. Them holding shipping at risk in the Red Sea is a way simpler and easier deal than holding off the Israelis in a conventional state to state war. Houthi also do not have the problem of lots of people who want to hurt them stuck on the inside that are willing to help out the Mossad like the Iranians do which has been a huge liability for the regime.
They have not been very effective against Israel. Their ballistic missiles have been very ineffective as well as their drones. Even when not intercepted, many disintegrated during flight.

They've killed 2 Israelis and injured 190 in more than 60 attacks since October 2023. That's not exactly a major success for a year and a half.

Doing something major directly against the US would be an extremely stupid thing to do at this stage.
 

K1052

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They have not been very effective against Israel. Their ballistic missiles have been very ineffective as well as their drones. Even when not intercepted, many disintegrated during flight.

They've killed 2 Israelis and injured 190 in more than 60 attacks since October 2023. That's not exactly a major success for a year and a half.

Doing something major directly against the US would be an extremely stupid thing to do at this stage.

Houthi BM attacks on Israel mostly amount to harassment. It annoyed Tel Aviv enough into action but they found the same problems we did with trying to get something actually done.
 

Josh128

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They have not been very effective against Israel. Their ballistic missiles have been very ineffective as well as their drones. Even when not intercepted, many disintegrated during flight.

They've killed 2 Israelis and injured 190 in more than 60 attacks since October 2023. That's not exactly a major success for a year and a half.

Doing something major directly against the US would be an extremely stupid thing to do at this stage.
Meaning sabotage, etc, not direct military aggression per se. They could have sleeper cells already in the US, ready to go. Not saying this is very likely, just a possibility. Just a handful of radicals caused an awful lot of pain and carnage in the US on 9-11-2001, so its possible.
 

linkgoron

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Houthi BM attacks on Israel mostly amount to harassment. It annoyed Tel Aviv enough into action but they found the same problems we did with trying to get something actually done.
I agree that the Houthi's themselves are not exactly a problem with an easy or simple solution.
 

DaaQ

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Look if people want to believe that a regime change in the Middle East that has been LESS thought out than the grand adventures of GWB is likely to ultimately turn out well then I don't know what the fuck to tell you.
The States or Provinces of Saudi Arabia. Might even go with United.
 

uallas5

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I’m confused, is the support we give Israel free or has maga deemed that money ok to not spend on Americans now?

Also, the irony of Israel calling for Iran to be split up.

It’s pretty obvious as to what’s going on. Israel is trying to bate Trump into backing a war against Iran, and no Trump isn’t aware of it, if he was he wouldn’t be able to keep his fat mouth shut.
I don't think Trump knew what was going to happen either. He got played by Bibi the same way he got played by Putin. Trump really wanted to get a deal done with Iran. Not only would that play well with the America First isolationists, but he DESPERATELY wants a Nobel Peace Prize and a legit deal with Iran would have given him something to harp on. I'm sure Bibi was encouraging Trump the whole time, while in reality he was getting all his strike pieces into place. Then the morning of the strikes they call the US and say "Hey, were gonna start bombing the shit out of Iran". Not asking but telling.

At that point Trump has to save face. All he can do is pretend like he knew about it the whole time. He then fluffs up the MAGA crowd with his tough guy talk: "Bunker Busters", "UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER!!", etc.
 
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