I can finally make this thread.
Phoenix is indeed RDNA3. My advice to everyone: treat the old APU rumours as being out of date.
Phoenix is indeed RDNA3. My advice to everyone: treat the old APU rumours as being out of date.
DPC latency looks good even on Intel, but that one is more dependent on laptop model than CPU used.Just a feeling. I'm talking more about responsiveness than absolute performance. The 7545U should feel much snappier. In case Chips and Cheese does a proper article on it, we will surely get some juicier benchmarks.
I wouldn't touch that now. 7545U has slightly faster iGPU. Lower power cores let the iGPU breathe a bit more in the same power envelope.I just checked and I can buy some Ryzen 5 7540U model, but they are >1000 euro.
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Why couldn't AMD just make an APU with only C cored and and extra CU?
Wouldn't be cheaper, perform "better" (after all, C cores are the "same" cores) and use less energy?
They have already released 4C/8T part where is 1 regular Zen core and 3 c-cores.Question is what will they do if a Zen 4 core is not functional, will they release a 4C/8T Zen 4c SKU limited to say 3.2GHz or rather a 5C/10T with 1 Zen 4 + 4 Zen 4c, the latter would be more relevant on a perf and revenue POV.
7500G is basically a better 12400. You don't have to accept it. Majority of people just have to.Little Phoenix for a Ryzen 5 7500G? 4CUs for a Ryzen 5 G? unacceptable, and i hope everyone agrees this time. I can accept it with the 7300G, to a point.
Unless the price is really really good, but i doubt it.
Should It matter that It only has 4CU?Little Phoenix for a Ryzen 5 7500G? 4CUs for a Ryzen 5 G? unacceptable, and i hope everyone agrees this time. I can accept it with the 7300G, to a point.
Unless the price is really really good, but i doubt it.
Little Phoenix for a Ryzen 5 7500G? 4CUs for a Ryzen 5 G? unacceptable, and i hope everyone agrees this time. I can accept it with the 7300G, to a point.
Yeah. A mini PC to office or living room, or All in one or chromebook, why not?It's fine for everything but gaming.
Where does it say it's based on Zen 5 arch? They gonna release Zen 5 in APU first?Should It matter that It only has 4CU?
It's a 6C12T Zen5 APU so It will be likely called as 75**G.
Of course It was a typo.Where does it say it's based on Zen 5 arch? They gonna release Zen 5 in APU first?
Im sorry but no, that excuse not longer works when all AM5 socs already have a non-gaming IGP.7500G is basically a better 12400. You don't have to accept it. Majority of people just have to.
Like... the regular AM5 CPUs?... yeah, no.It's fine for everything but gaming.
Matching 5700G would be fine for an 7300G (and something tells me it might not have all 4CU enabled), but for a AM5 Ryzen 5G? That would be like what? 10% increase over the 5 year old 2400G/3400G? And this is best case escenario, because im petty sure you need 6 CU or some really, really high clocks to match the 5700G @ 2GHz.Should It matter that It only has 4CU?
It's a 6C12TZen5Zen4 APU so It will be likely called as 75**G.
What matters is the price.
Gaming performance despite only having 4CU should be comparable to 8CU IGP in 5700G.
How is that possible? Simple, higher clocks and much better architecture.
Example: 4CU 3GHz RDNA3 vs 8CU 2GHz Vega
edit: fixed Zen5 -> Zen4
7600 starts at 220 dollars. 7300G probably starts at 120, that's the difference. If you want to game, the mining craze is long time over, get 5500+rx580 for 200 dollars, it'll be cheaper and a lot fasterIm sorry but no, that excuse not longer works when all AM5 socs already have a non-gaming IGP.
7600 starts at 220 dollars.
The 7300G should be fine. But launching a 7500G in 2024, with the IGP performance of a 2019 3400G? That alone is very bad. And lets see about pricing but it is likely that the overall combo price to be higher than current 5600G/5700G, this is not OK in any way.7600 starts at 220 dollars. 7300G probably starts at 120, that's the difference. If you want to game, the mining craze is long time over, get 5500+rx580 for 200 dollars, it'll be cheaper and a lot faster
The 7300G should be fine. But launching a 7500G in 2024, with the IGP performance of a 2019 3400G? That alone is very bad. And lets see about pricing but it is likely that the overall combo price to be higher than current 5600G/5700G, this is not OK in any way.
Maybe their plan is to compensate with FSR3 FG. Triple the framerates!But launching a 7500G in 2024, with the IGP performance of a 2019 3400G?
Big mistake from AMD , they come very late, dunno who take the decisions there but affordable APUs should be a first concern, it s by launching such products that they got AM4 success on the long run.