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naukkis

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Well I guess that's that. The other half of those deaths are vaccination deaths. Adds up, no data needed

Point is that by statistics most of excess deaths now aren't Covid-related on Europe. Still everything is mandated because of Covid. People aren't stupid, they are going into streets against government like they do at Canada right now.
 

hardhat

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It's not denied that vaccination kills people. Bill Gates estimated before vaccination that severe permanent handicap or death will occur to 1:10000 vaccinated. It's just about how much they are killing. There might very well be some other explanation for excess death rates but at least here formal media isn't talking about it, actually they straight up lie that mortality haven't rose.
Yet again, CITE YOUR EVIDENCE. Cite the ARTICLE that quoted Bill Gates as saying that. And as far as I know Bill Gates isn't an epidemiologist, so I would rather look at ACTUAL STUDIES.
You are pulling the most important part of your argument-that the vaccine is killing people-out of your ass. We know what the common and less common side effects of the vaccines are, and they do not kill anywhere near 1 in 10,000. And we also know that COVID-19 is much more deadly and causes many more long term effects than the vaccine. It's not even close.
So stop saying the vaccine is killing people until you have actual proof that it is. Because all of the studies that have been undertaken so far show that the vaccine is many many times safer than getting COVID-19.
 

ch33zw1z

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Point is that by statistics most of excess deaths now aren't Covid-related on Europe. Still everything is mandated because of Covid. People aren't stupid, they are going into streets against government like they do at Canada right now.

I dunno, you'll have to provide evidence that people aren't stupid. I think covid has again reinforced how stupid people really are.
 

naukkis

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I dunno, you'll have to provide evidence that people aren't stupid. I think covid has again reinforced how stupid people really are.

Yes indeed. Because of fear of flu they are willingly ready gave all their constitutional rights away. People are also died before for keeping those rights.
 
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brycejones

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You haven't checked mortality when everything government does depends on it? I can't share queries from stats.oecd.org other than pictures but that should be easy enough to use for everyone. Those statistics calculate excess deaths and covid deaths as excess deaths percentage so comparing them is straightforward.
so far you have only made unsupported assertions
 
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naukkis

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What constitutional rights were given up?

In Europe and Canada they are planning to use vaccination passport so you lose you ability to go public places or work if you don't get mandatory vaccinations. Vaccinations aren't "forced" as it's against Nuremberg code but without forced vaccinations you are going to lose your constitutional rights. It's actually becoming pretty much like it is in North Korea or China.
 

ch33zw1z

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In Europe and Canada they are planning to use vaccination passport so you lose you ability to go public places or work if you don't get mandatory vaccinations. Vaccinations aren't "forced" as it's against Nuremberg code but without forced vaccinations you are going to lose your constitutional rights. It's actually becoming pretty much like it is in North Korea or China.

Show me in their constitutions where these are rights lost
 

Heartbreaker

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In Europe and Canada they are planning to use vaccination passport so you lose you ability to go public places or work if you don't get mandatory vaccinations. Vaccinations aren't "forced" as it's against Nuremberg code but without forced vaccinations you are going to lose your constitutional rights. It's actually becoming pretty much like it is in North Korea or China.

I'm in Canada, and required vaccinations are not some kind of new thing. In my province your kids are required to get: diphtheria, tetanus, polio, measles, mumps, and rubella vaccinations. I suspect you might see similar things in some sensibly run US states.

All of sudden a fringe of lunatics spend their days online reading moronic antivax propaganda, and fighting against civil society rather than get a simple vaccine.

Big manly men, afraid of a little needle, when little children have to get 6 of them just to start school?

You antivaxxer wimps are beneath contempt.
 
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NWRMidnight

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When did a list of a state's executive orders and their "claims" become a constitution of a country? Last I checked, Florida is not a country, and a list of executive orders is not a constitution. Regardless, you haven't answered what rights where lost. Executive orders and their "claims" are no indication of such either, specially those from Florida's governor, as he's as uneducated about rights as you seem to be.

Multiple people have asked you for various documentation/proof/evidence of your claims, and you have failed to present a single piece of evidence (Florida's BS is not evidence) and just continue to pull stuff from your ass in response and/or move goal posts. (Europe, to Canada, to Florida is a great example of such).
 
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Heartbreaker

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It's not denied that vaccination kills people. Bill Gates estimated before vaccination that severe permanent handicap or death will occur to 1:10000 vaccinated. It's just about how much they are killing. There might very well be some other explanation for excess death rates but at least here formal media isn't talking about it, actually they straight up lie that mortality haven't rose.

I don't know which cesspool you normally wallow in, to come up with that BS.

Excess deaths are mainly down to two sources. Underrepresented actual Covid deaths, and Hospitals overfilled because too many morons didn't get the vaccine. Full hospitals means less routine medical care, delayed cancer treatments, etc...

 
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naukkis

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Big manly men, afraid of a little needle, when little children have to get 6 of them just to start school?

Vaccines often do more harm than good - that's why vaccines approval takes usually 10 years and only small fraction of vaccines are good enough to use. That's not how covid-19 vaccines are tested. They are still experimental vaccines and everybody takes them at their own risk. If you die from experimental vaccine side-effects that's juridically suicide - you aren't getting anything from your life insurance and so on. And today there aren't yet vaccines against omicron. Instead they mandated that non-working vaccine has to be taken every four months to keep you vaccine passport green. That's pure insanity.
 
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brycejones

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Vaccines often do more harm than good - that's why vaccines approval takes usually 10 years and only small fraction of vaccines are good enough to use. That's not how covid-19 vaccines are tested. They are still experimental vaccines and everybody takes them at their own risk. If you die from experimental vaccine side-effects that's juridically suicide - you aren't getting anything from your life insurance and so on. And today there aren't yet vaccines against omicron. Instead they mandated that non-working vaccine has to be taken every four months to keep you vaccine passport green. That's pure insanity.
Still waiting for you to post evidence supporting a single claim you've made.
 

sdifox

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In Europe and Canada they are planning to use vaccination passport so you lose you ability to go public places or work if you don't get mandatory vaccinations. Vaccinations aren't "forced" as it's against Nuremberg code but without forced vaccinations you are going to lose your constitutional rights. It's actually becoming pretty much like it is in North Korea or China.


LoL learn to read. Nuremberg Code is about research ethics, not vaccination.


I remember lining up in the school field with everyone else and getting vaccinated. I don't remember seeing a field of children dead from the vaccine.
 
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eelw

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Normally I’ll give a few days before someone gets added to ignore. This moron going directly there after these insane posts. As to the other person’s comment on why we hurl insults at people on the right, it’s because of asinine beliefs shared by naukkis and the like. That other guy acting like he didn't say stupid things for NWRMidnight to resort to name calling is ludicrous.
 
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zinfamous

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This post contains unverified statements and covid misinformation.

Phizer CEO says it does nothing for current strain. Cloth masks to next to nothing. Stats are very over inflated. Vaccinated can transmit just as easy an non vaccinated.

Yet majority of democrats want unvaccinated to be punished by fees and quarantined to their homes.

Science is out the window. Dems want power and punishment. But tell me how Republicans are nazis.

oh look, a lying bag of dicks.
 

K1052

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Vaccines often do more harm than good - that's why vaccines approval takes usually 10 years and only small fraction of vaccines are good enough to use. That's not how covid-19 vaccines are tested. They are still experimental vaccines and everybody takes them at their own risk. If you die from experimental vaccine side-effects that's juridically suicide - you aren't getting anything from your life insurance and so on. And today there aren't yet vaccines against omicron. Instead they mandated that non-working vaccine has to be taken every four months to keep you vaccine passport green. That's pure insanity.

This is basically on the level of claiming the cheese at the grocery store was covertly mined from the moon by a shadowy cabal of space jews.
 

Dave_5k

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This is basically on the level of claiming the cheese at the grocery store was covertly mined from the moon by a shadowy cabal of space jews.
Well they do have that space laser … it’s for more than just starting forest fires, it also slices and dices
 

brycejones

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Oct 18, 2005
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Vaccines often do more harm than good - that's why vaccines approval takes usually 10 years and only small fraction of vaccines are good enough to use. That's not how covid-19 vaccines are tested. They are still experimental vaccines and everybody takes them at their own risk. If you die from experimental vaccine side-effects that's juridically suicide - you aren't getting anything from your life insurance and so on. And today there aren't yet vaccines against omicron. Instead they mandated that non-working vaccine has to be taken every four months to keep you vaccine passport green. That's pure insanity.
You are showing yourself to be an expert in insanity.
 
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Iron Woode

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I live in Europe and in this country hasn't been any unusual saturation in hospitals. Excess deaths after 2nd vaccine shot started to be about 10:1 against Covid deaths, and 3rd shot about doubled excess deaths again. Authors haven't given any explanations to those death rates yet.
You can check yourself, Finland, 2nd vaccination started about week 20 of 2021. Excess deaths are about 10 to 1 vs Covid deaths. And covid deaths include death with Covid so that number is exaggerated. And because of lockdowns and social distancing non-covid mortality should be lower than usual like it was first half of 2021 before 2nd vaccination started, so real difference might be quite a bit bigger than those directly from stats. stats.oecd.org
There is Portugal statistics too. Yes, start of 2021 was bad but current situation seems to be way different - excess deaths are about 20% and only about 5% of those are registered as Covid deaths.
It's not denied that vaccination kills people. Bill Gates estimated before vaccination that severe permanent handicap or death will occur to 1:10000 vaccinated. It's just about how much they are killing. There might very well be some other explanation for excess death rates but at least here formal media isn't talking about it, actually they straight up lie that mortality haven't rose.
Yes indeed. Because of fear of flu they are willingly ready gave all their constitutional rights away. People are also died before for keeping those rights.
In Europe and Canada they are planning to use vaccination passport so you lose you ability to go public places or work if you don't get mandatory vaccinations. Vaccinations aren't "forced" as it's against Nuremberg code but without forced vaccinations you are going to lose your constitutional rights. It's actually becoming pretty much like it is in North Korea or China.
Vaccines often do more harm than good - that's why vaccines approval takes usually 10 years and only small fraction of vaccines are good enough to use. That's not how covid-19 vaccines are tested. They are still experimental vaccines and everybody takes them at their own risk. If you die from experimental vaccine side-effects that's juridically suicide - you aren't getting anything from your life insurance and so on. And today there aren't yet vaccines against omicron. Instead they mandated that non-working vaccine has to be taken every four months to keep you vaccine passport green. That's pure insanity.
you can't seem to stop posting unsubstantiated "facts" can you?

we already have a few fuckwits posting covid misinformation. We don't need you joining in.

you should really pay attention to what @Perknose wrote to one of your posts.
 
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