Question Incredible Apple M4 benchmarks...

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SpudLobby

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No, definitely. Just in general about the CPU. It’s okay to just agree btw.
It’s great.
Only Dell really committed. Rest are so-so.
yeah AMD still can’t get the XPS. Check out Brutus’s comments about this — he makes good points.
It's kinda mid for how much reddit wanks it, plus they missed clk targets in public!
Reddit is such a cheap target when half of them are wanking to AMD. If it were Nvidia you’d have a point (though hell, AMD GPUs do suck so they’re justified in wanking to GeForce).
 

SpudLobby

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Someone should do a GPU comparison between M4 and Strix eventually TBH. Would love to see that
 

Doug S

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I don’t agree but it’s true it’s the meta. Everyone’s pumping. Straight up Venice Beach roids with watts rn.

You think 3300? Might be fair, IDK. Did they get any IPC gains outside of SME or no?

Right now it looks like Zen 5 might not pass Apple which I was previously looking forward to.

3300 is a ridiculous take. He knows he's spouting bs since people have posted actual calculations without SME, but he's got his anti Apple agenda he wants to push.
 

poke01

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3300 is a ridiculous take. He knows he's spouting bs since people have posted actual calculations without SME, but he's got his anti Apple agenda he wants to push.
Yeah 3300 is very low considering it scores 2700 with enough cooling in GB5. It’s a very impressive score in 5.
 

adroc_thurston

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It’s great.
na. just ok.
would've been great a year ago.
yeah AMD still can’t get the XPS
They got something else.
Check out Brutus’s comments about this — he makes good points.
Is he still upset over his 2020 G14?
Either way he's physically incapable of making good points about laptops.
Reddit is such a cheap target when half of them are wanking to AMD
Oh no, they pray to the lord and savior ARM iirc.
though hell, AMD GPUs do suck
They're ok.
3300 is a ridiculous take. He knows he's spouting bs since people have posted actual calculations without SME, but he's got his anti Apple agenda he wants to push.
It's just gb6.2 score rofl.
 

SpudLobby

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3300 is a ridiculous take. He knows he's spouting bs since people have posted actual calculations without SME, but he's got his anti Apple agenda he wants to push.
I know that (I’ve posted on here about the GB5 scores before). I was soliciting it to stir the pot, just to see what we could get out of it. Didn’t disappoint. But yeah it does look like they have some nonzero IPC gains without SME. Like 5%

He might be right Zen 5 will be really good, I’m looking forward to it.
 

Saylick

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It appears M4 is 10 wide.

It doesn't look like Apple has the know-how anymore to redesign the core. Every generation after M1 has been using the transistor budget to just widen existing structures. Like Jim Keller said, every so often you have to re-write the core and rebalance the structures. Even if the underlying building blocks are the same, how you use them to construct the core matters a lot more. AMD did it with Zen 3 and now they will redo it with Zen 5. It doesn't appear Apple did it at all within the last 3 years.
 

SpudLobby

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It doesn't look like Apple has the know-how anymore to redesign the core. Every generation after M1 has been using the transistor budget to just widen existing structures. Like Jim Keller said, every so often you have to re-write the core and rebalance the structures. Even if the underlying building blocks are the same, how you use them to construct the core matters a lot more. AMD did it with Zen 3 and now they will redo it with Zen 5. It doesn't appear Apple did it at all within the last 3 years.
Why would they actually redesign the core though if the basics still work? I don’t understand the fetishism for this. It’s fair to say their IPC gains have been mediocre since Nuvia left (with a delay obviously) but there’s no point in reinventing the wheel. Just look at results.
It appears M4 is 10 wide.

Yeah this checks out based on the 5-6% IPC gain. But where is this from? Geekerwan?
 

poke01

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