Israel: We Are At War

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dullard

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Shhh...don't tell anyone.. we have more bunker busters.
Shhh...don't tell anyone that our bunker busters went no where near the ~300 feet deep needed just to get to the top corridors. We would never want the world to know both that we failed and that our most powerful bunker busters don't do much.

Photo AFTER the bunker buster:

We'd need many, many more than what we have to get deep enough.
 
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Pens1566

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Shhh...don't tell anyone that our bunker busters went no where near the ~300 feet deep needed just to get to the top corridors. We would never want the world to know both that we failed and that our most powerful bunker busters don't do much.

Photo AFTER the bunker buster:
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We'd need many, many more than what we have to get deep enough.

They were never rated for anywhere near that. Up to 200ft of earth, only ~60ft of concrete (depending on psi). The Iranian sites were reportedly 300ft AND concrete. Was never gonna work. At least for anything more than making it inaccessible for X months.
 
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DZero

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They were never rated for anywhere near that. Up to 200ft of earth, only ~60ft of concrete (depending on psi). The Iranian sites were reportedly 300ft AND concrete. Was never gonna work. At least for anything more than making it inaccessible for X months.
So, that leads... going full nuclear... the only way to make impossible to access the sites.
 
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So, that leads... going full nuclear... the only way to make impossible to access the sites.

Remotely? Yeah, that's pretty much always been the case.

These regimes have learned over time to adapt in that way.

Then again, I don't believe this was ever really about entirely removing their nuke capability. More performance art than anything.
 
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They were never rated for anywhere near that. Up to 200ft of earth, only ~60ft of concrete (depending on psi). The Iranian sites were reportedly 300ft AND concrete. Was never gonna work. At least for anything more than making it inaccessible for X months.
Part of the principle of how these extra large bunker busters would work is that they would create a pressure wave that could severely damage or destroy the interior, even if they didn't fully reach the target.
 
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Part of the principle of how these extra large bunker busters would work is that they would create a pressure wave that could severely damage or destroy the interior, even if they didn't fully reach the target.

While true, that would have to be one hell of a pressure wave to make up the extra ~240ft we're talking about here.
 
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K1052

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Part of the principle of how these extra large bunker busters would work is that they would create a pressure wave that could severely damage or destroy the interior, even if they didn't fully reach the target.

Collapsing the centrifuge hall with the shockwave surely was the hoped for result. Doesn't sound like it happened though. Since the Iranians buried the portals before the strike safe to assume the centrifuge cascades were shut down already removing other likely avenue of damage (they are very delicate when operating).
 
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Collapsing the centrifuge hall with the shockwave surely was the hoped for result. Doesn't sound like it happened though. Since the Iranians buried the portals before the strike safe to assume the centrifuge cascades were shut down already removing other likely avenue of damage (they are very delicate when operating).

Another aspect of the kabuki theater going on here. That and the observed caravan of cargo trucks that were publicly seen leaving the site on satellite imagery.
 

K1052

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Another aspect of the kabuki theater going on here. That and the observed caravan of cargo trucks that were publicly seen leaving the site on satellite imagery.

I think I heard Marco Rubio assert that there were no trucks and if there were we or Israel woulda destroyed them. The lies are becoming even lazier, if possible.
 

Amused

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Part of the principle of how these extra large bunker busters would work is that they would create a pressure wave that could severely damage or destroy the interior, even if they didn't fully reach the target.

And successive bombs could be dropped in the same hole to drill down.
 

Moonbeam

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I wonder what the final price in blood and shekels per hector Israel will pay for the takeover of what is left of Palestine. Religious states seem to be pretty expensive to maintain.

At least in America we would never allow such a think to happen here. Just imagine if we were a Christian nation and got invaded. We'd have to turn the other cheek rather than bomb Iran for no reason.
 
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RnR_au

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They were never rated for anywhere near that. Up to 200ft of earth, only ~60ft of concrete (depending on psi). The Iranian sites were reportedly 300ft AND concrete. Was never gonna work. At least for anything more than making it inaccessible for X months.
I heard that they targeted ventilation shafts to get the initial strike to go deeper. But yeah could be fake news inspired by a Starwars plot...

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A New York Times analysis of satellite imagery shows that the United States targeted Fordo, Iran’s underground nuclear enrichment facility, at the precise locations of two structures that experts said might be ventilation shafts.


The structures were visible only during the early stages of the plant’s operation, and could be seen in satellite images in 2009. By 2011, both were no longer visible. Experts said they might be ventilation shafts used during the plant’s construction, and then buried.

Source
 

Josh128

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Shhh...don't tell anyone that our bunker busters went no where near the ~300 feet deep needed just to get to the top corridors. We would never want the world to know both that we failed and that our most powerful bunker busters don't do much.

Photo AFTER the bunker buster:
View attachment 126223
We'd need many, many more than what we have to get deep enough.
Amazing that you have better info than the US and Israeli intelligence and military combined! How is that possible?
 
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Artorias

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Shhh...don't tell anyone that our bunker busters went no where near the ~300 feet deep needed just to get to the top corridors. We would never want the world to know both that we failed and that our most powerful bunker busters don't do much.

Photo AFTER the bunker buster:
View attachment 126223
We'd need many, many more than what we have to get deep enough.
Makes you wonder if that's why tactical nukes were floated around.
 

HomerJS

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Members of Congress still haven't been briefed. Scheduled briefings have been postponed.

They need time to concoct their lies and gaslight.
 
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