Israel: We Are At War

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Is this why American politicians are supporting Israel's genocide?


No wonder America is almost the only one defending Israel in the world.
 

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Israeli historian Ilan Pappe on the history of Gaza from before 1948 and why and how it became a strip. Pappe is a treasure trove of little known historical facts that have largely been obscured by the Zio-state.

 
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Israeli historian Ilan Pappe on the history of Gaza from before 1948 and why and how it became a strip. Pappe is a treasure trove of little known historical facts that have largely been obscured by the Zio-state.

Ilan Pappe and Norm Finkelstein are two of the preeminent scholars on Palestine

Article from Mondoweiss on Al-Shifa hospital massacre

 

amenx

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There are some oddly specific headlines about Iran's purportedly pending retaliatory strike, almost like a concerted propaganda campaign.
Yeah I sense that too. Kind of like someone deliberately stirring the pot in preparation for a pre-emptive strike against Iran.
 
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Article highlighting israel's abuse of power within the west bank


‘Shhh or I’ll shoot you’: family of jailed Christian woman tell of Israeli raid

The Israeli troops arrived at about 4am last Saturday to take 23-year-old Layan Nasir away at gunpoint from her parents’ home in the West Bank town of Birzeit. There was no arrest warrant or charges, and her parents haven’t been notified of where she is held.

The only Palestinian Christian woman currently in Israeli detention, her case has been raised by the archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby. “I’m shocked and deeply concerned,” he said in a post on X. “Please pray for Layan’s safety and swift release.”

The family’s ordeal began when Layan’s mother, Lulu Aranki Nasir, was woken early in the morning by loud hammering on her door.

“The minute I opened the door, 15 soldiers put their guns in my face and entered the house in a hurry,” she said, in an interview in the family’s living room, dominated by a lifesize poster of Layan on her graduation day.

Aranki Nasir started to ask what the men wanted, and one said “Shhh or I’ll shoot you”, then pointed a loaded gun at her head. When Layan’s father, Sami Nasir, came out of the bedroom, he too was held at gunpoint. A soldier told him: “We are at war, we can do anything.”

After they searched the house, a captain appeared, who gave his name as Meron and told the family he had come for Layan.

She was taken away, blindfolded and handcuffed, about 20 minutes after the soldiers arrived. Aranki Nasir was barred from saying goodbye to her only daughter. “We weren’t allowed to even look at her,” she said, her eyes filling with tears at the memory.

Layan was allowed to speak to her lawyer for 1 minute on the phone the next day. She told him she was in Ofer jail but expected to be moved soon, and Israeli officials were preparing the papers to hold her in administrative detention.

This allows for pre-emptive arrest, on secret evidence, and six-month stints in prison without charge or trial that can be extended indefinitely.

“Can you imagine how fragile our lives under occupation are, that the Israelis can come at any time, to any house, not give any reason, take that person to an unknown place, and keep that person for months in jail without being guilty of anything?” said Xavier Abu Eid, political scientist, former adviser to the PLO and a parishioner at Layan’s church.

“These things are taking place on a daily basis. This is one case that is highlighted for particular reasons, but thousands are in jail.”
 

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For months Israel and Hezbollah engaged in tit for tat attacks. This last exchange is only the latest with Israel attacking south Lebanon and Hezbollah responding.


The Israelis bombed the Iranian consolate in Damascus to manipulate news media and world opinion to think Iran itself was now retaliating. The Israelis want everyone to think the latest is an Iranian response when it was just the usual tit for tat exchanges with Hezbollah that they were purposely escalating to reach this point to get a pretext to attack Iran.

The Israelis are nothing more than manipulative scumbags. This is exactly the sort of shit they've been doing for decades. As they dragged the US into a war with Iraq, so they will do the same with Iran.

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EDIT: Seems the Iranians are claming responsiblity. Still what I said largely holds true in that the Israelis were manipulating things to happen this way.

The Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps says in a statement that it has begun an attack on Israel using “dozens of drones and missiles”.

 
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If there are "100's" of drones, I'm a little confused as to why Iraq didn't just start shooting them down, with US help, for violating its airspace.

(I'm assuming that the drones aren't going 100's of kilometers out of their way to get to Israel via Syria).
 
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If there are "100's" of drones, I'm a little confused as to why Iraq didn't just start shooting them down, with US help, for violating its airspace.

(I'm assuming that the drones aren't going 100's of kilometers out of their way to get to Israel via Syria).

Compared to Israel, (and us!) Iraq & Iran are BFF's.

Fair guess says that Iraq is fine with this.
 

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I wouldn't be surprised if these drone waves all targeted the same empty maintenance shed in some desolate corner of Israel. I guess we'll see in a bit. Iran seems to be more concerned with letting everyone know that they just send a whole bunch of their slow and easily shot down drones to strike Israel. They are walking the line between trying to show strength and being annihilated if they happened to hit something important.
 
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I wouldn't be surprised if these drone waves all targeted the same empty maintenance shed in some desolate corner of Israel. I guess we'll see in a bit. Iran seems to be more concerned with letting everyone know that they just send a whole bunch of their slow and easily shot down drones to strike Israel. They are walking the line between trying to show strength and being annihilated if they happened to hit something important.

Lets hope. (refer to sig)
 

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Israel says they have cruise missiles inbound. Iran says they sent ballistic missiles. So, maybe there's a combination of both. On top of multiple waves of drones, in which the Houthis are getting in on the action and have sent some as well.
 
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