Israel: We Are At War

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Pohemi

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I hope Israel had nothing to do with it.

Same. It'd have been a prime target for them from the sound of it. I have a feeling they wouldn't have pussy-footed it though...I doubt it'd have just been grounded and not blown out of the sky.
 

KMFJD

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Gantz issues ultimatum at bibi


1. Bringing all the hostages home

2. Toppling Hamas , demilitarizing the strip, and guaranteeing "Israeli security control"

3. Creating an "American-European-Arab-Palestinian administration" that'll act as Gaza's civil government alongside the Israeli security forces and lay the ground for a future authority that's neither Hamas nor the PA

4. Returning the northerners home until September 1st

5. Advancing normalization with Saudi Arabia

6. Conscription for all Israelis
 
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GodisanAtheist

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-Helecopters are just a terrible way to travel. Was in Hawaii a few years ago and in two weeks we were there we read about two separate expedition/tour helicopters crashing and killing everyone onboard.

Kobe Bryant of all people died in a Helicopter crash.

Why any government would put a bunch of top officials on a helicopter, let alone at the same time, completely baffles me.
 
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Roger Wilco

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-Helecopters are just a terrible way to travel. Was in Hawaii a few years ago and in two weeks we were there we read about two separate expedition/tour helicopters crashing and killing everyone onboard.

Kobe Bryant of all people died in a Helicopter crash.

Why any government would put a bunch of top officials on a helicopter, let alone at the same time, completely baffles me.

I have questions for the person/people who made the call to fly in those conditions.
 
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MrSquished

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Quoting for posterity
Ha. Seriously any college student at a decent school that applies themselves knows more And has better critical thinking skills than Green Man. Cuz he shows he has about none of either thing. I personally know if some.

Green man makes hammers look smart
 
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Moonbeam

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Is the person who may become the next president a felon? Who knows, no time to check.

Are kids he’s never met stupid? Case closed.
While I agree that it is in poor taste morally, in my opinion, to call people you do know stupid, much less people whose mental faculties you are not privileged to personally assess, I would add that it is quite typical, again in my opinion, for conservatives to look down at liberal moral judgments with deep skepticism. And the reason that I hold that opinion is based on scientific research that shows that conservatives have a rather larger range of moral concerns than Liberals. This means that for conservatives looking at liberals they can see a lack of perspective whereas when liberals look at conservatives the can judge them based on a more limited perspective, basically only justice and equality, only two of a larger moral set.

This limitation that liberals generally lack can easily be seen by conservatives as stupidity. What conservatives fail to note, however, is that having a wider range of moral values to assess, they also have greater opportunities to make judgment errors.

As an example, everyone should respect their elders for the fact they have greater life experience, but as liberals can more easily see is that there is no fool like an old fool. Respect should be owed but only when earned. Here, of course, we move on to a different moral question, what constitutes 'earned'. Many a fool, by any others it seems, are judged worthy
 

amenx

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Popular conservative saying that "if your mind is too open, your brains will fall out". I guess thats how some of them view these college kids.
 
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Moonbeam

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Popular conservative saying that "if your mind is too open, your brains will fall out". I guess thats how some of them view these college kids.
I remember the first time I heard some younger people talking and realized they had no idea what they were talking about. It was a strange experience. All your childhood you hear about how you lack the experience to make decisions on your own, and BAM suddenly you see it in front of your face. You can't put an old head on young shoulders, and blah blah blah. Hehe, I can't either. Fortunately, I don't know anything. You?
 
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